If we want zaps to be more legit, we probably need the concept of trusted zappers

Anyone can easily publish a note saying "yep this person just got zapped a million sats"

We've already seen people do this but nobody has done it as an attack yet.

Or perhaps we just have to accept that publicly showing zaps is basically meaningless

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Publicly showing zaps is meaningless. Also, even if it was more verifiable you’d still have people zapping themselves via separate accounts to trend or hit billboard like commonly done (and tolerated “bro, it’s just self promotion”) on wavlake.

everything is gameable, even real life. cutting out 99.9% of the "costless" spam is a great start.

Is Bitcoin gameable?

Illegitimate zaps aside, a public display of zaps is rendered meaningless anyway if it doesn't reliably include *all* legitimate zaps.

#Reticulum has this concept built into the networking stack. Trusted and closed networks can interoperate with open and untrusted networks. Authentication is built-in. This allows for networks that form and dissolve easily without having to trust the underlying infrastructure.

https://reticulum.network/manual/networks.html

LXMF is a transport protocol similar to Nostr that is built with the Reticulum networking stack.

A comparison of Nostr and Reticulum

https://github.com/markqvist/Reticulum/discussions/59

Summary:

"In some ways, it [Nostr] is very similar to LXMF, in that it also has the "dead-drop" and wide distribution mechanism. It is different that LXMF offers forward secrecy and encryption by default, while still allowing the posting of public or semi-public information."

If zaps can be faked, followers can be bots and likes can be spam then what are we even doing?