At what point is something sufficiently decentralized? What is the magic number?

13,000 nodes distrubuted across the planet sounds just as practically unstoppable to me as 22,000. Not even one order of magnitude difference despite Monero having a much smaller userbase.

https://bitnodes.io/

https://monero.fail/map

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principles not particulars.

essence not accidents.

“magic number” thinking is the latter

maybe it is sufficient for today, but u have to trust it wil be sufficient tomorrow, and the next, and the next.

when trust is not necessary, asking for trust is the first symptom of deceit

Maybe 22,000 is not sufficient for tomorrow either.

The same way that the magic decentralization number for block size is 4MB and also just happens to be what Bitcoin is at this moment in time. What a coincidence.

In principle Bitcoin should have 1 byte blocks. Maximum decentralization. Anything more is centralized. Principles.

🤣 I know principled thinking is hard.

principles drive the priorities

u strawman cause there is not wiggling out of the incoherence of making privacy prime.

a block needs a size, no shit.

what principle is prime in the decision? that’s the question, and if our answer reintroduces trust into the equation, it demonstrates an inability to recognize thr problem

You keep repeating the word "principles" as if repeating it enough times will make what you're saying principled.

Earlier you said: "Monero trades risk of privacy concerns for risk of centralization...Trust is the problem, and he solved it with decentralization, thats why it a contradiction of first principles to make the trade"

Your principle is decentralization.

Bigger blocks = centralized

Smaller blocks = decentralized

True or not? Instead of speaking in fuzzy language speak plainly.

Why are 1 byte blocks not more decentralized? Or will you dance around that like my magic number question?

it’s not my principle.

it’s objectively the key that unlocks the trust issue.

a 1 bit block is more centralized, but you miss the point

the chain would cease its monetary function.

decentralization being primary doesn’t mean only.

seems like you are either being purposfully obtuse to pretend you don’t understand design principles to troll, or you checked your rationality at the door snd this isn’t rational discourse nor will will ever be.

either way, ur a waste of my time.

People who are rational and principled don't have to keep repeating how "princpled" or "rational" their ideas are. They actually demonstrate it or argue it out.

It's like someone who keeps proclaiming how humble they are. It's pretentious.

>"a 1 bit block is more centralized, but you miss the point

the chain would cease its monetary function."

Exactly. Thanks for agreeing. Maximum tunnel-visioning on one thing at the cost of everything else is short-sighted.

Now all you have left to do is apply that to privacy and you'll be consistent.

have fun with your simulacrum

not stepping in your gnostic circle

classic gamma mid-wit

You type like a schizo. See ya.

privacy is important, but we don’t get very far when we put the cart before the horse