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I'm honestly surprised that there is such an overwhelming preference for "not voting" in the replies. Very interesting.

I guess I expected that even anarchists might generally prefer to maximize their potential political impact within the existing system.

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Guy Swann 1y ago

I think the best strategy is to simply think defensively. If you vote, vote for the thing that will cause the greatest disconcensus in the political sphere, or vote toward an explicit and singular goal.

For example:

• if I voted for RFK Jr it would be solely to see him go after the pharmaceutical industry. I don't really care about his stance on war because every politician's stance on war is dogshit. So why do i care which one gets in for that issue?

• If I voted for Trump it would be purely and only due to his promise to free Ross (plus the general political chaos it would cause would be entertaining). I don't give a shit about his other stances or absurdities. Every possible candidate is dog shit on SO many issues, so what difference would it make?

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sommerfeld 1y ago

I totally get your point but the devil's advocate would say that the public sphere still looks at each vote the same way: as a full endorsement.

Biden can claim that 75 million americans "endorsed him", even if that's obviously not true.

It just gives them an extra propaganda card to justify their power and actions.

Guy Swann 1y ago

Sure, I don't vote for this reason, but I'm not so dogmatic about it. My last vote was for Ron Paul int he primaries and it may stay that way.

On the propaganda note though, they *always* have some bullshit excuse, and I just don't consider that one very powerful. It only work on people who are stupid and accepting enough of the system, that literally *any* other excuse or bullshit they peddled would be swallowed whole regardless. So the question, in my mind, is whether the "75 million people support me" is a special and specifically useful propaganda, or if it's just one of the huge batch of dumb shit they pull out every time?

I lean toward the latter. They always have the "good sound bite" that proves they are the best and that everything good that happens is directly because of them and everything bad that happens is either unavoidable or caused by the last guy.

So i get what you are saying, but generally don't find it a very special or particularly convincing line of BS. It only convinces the same people who are convinced by literally anything they say, imo.