Just moved some sats from WoS into Phoenix and even though I had adequate inbound capacity for the payment Phoenix still took 3k sats and opened a new channel instead of using the existing channel. Not too happy about that.

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Oh shit! Imma be waching this because im will be doing the same soon

Similar thing happened to me. Moved 15k sats over and it opened a new channel and charged the 3k sat fee when I had 3 opened with a bunch of capacity 🤦‍♂️

Yea that’s insane.

Sounds like you had on the fly channel creation turned on.

But why wouldn’t it use the existing channel if it has adequate inbound?

I think when its on it will treat all incoming transactions as a channel creation. If its off, it tries to find a route and fails if it can't.

Good to know. I’ll be turning that off for sure. Lol

It’s with your feet I guess

So you have to open 2 channels.

One a lightning transaction

And one on-chain transaction

Like that you can move in and out

Had similar happen, there should at least be a confirm screen explaining a channel open needs to happen and show the fees. 🤷🏽‍♂️

💯 I’ve used Breez for longer than Phoenix and never had this issue. Breez does a good job of that and when you create an invoice it shows you how much you can receive before it requires a new channel.

Mmm... That's weird. Didn't Phoenix indicate that a new channel will be opened for the payment and that a 3k sats fee (minimum or 1%) is required?

I'm not currently using it (yet), but if I remember correctly, that's how I read it.

The initial setup shows you that, yes. After that it doesn’t warn you. But I’ve been sending and receiving for several weeks and the channel I initially opened when I setup the wallet is active and had adequate inbound capacity to receive the payment.

Mmh ... really strange!

So maybe Breez is the better choice? 🤔

Although I've often read that Phoenix is highly recommend.

They’re both good. I have just used Breez more and know what to expect with it. I like it’s features more but Phoenix is a good wallet. I found this on their website so maybe the incoming payment was larger than the amount I could actually receive even though it looked like I had enough inbound.

Thx, good to know!

I found that on their page. Atm "Sending LN payments" (regarding to the Mempool and the Noderunner situation) could be quite expensive 🤔!

Does Breez have similar fees for payments?

Cheap bastards. 🤣🫠

Seriously 🤣