Do the swiss people have the last word though 🤔?

Majority voted against:

- Fedpol

- Sommer-/wintertime

- Mass immigration

- Electronic identification (E-Id)

All of these votes where ignored. Well atleast regarding the E-Id we have a second chance to say No. But the technocrats just repeat the game until they win 🤷‍♀️.

Article about the phone examinations, if you are interested 😁:

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/umstrittenes-polizeigesetz-kein-handy-paragraf-im-thurgauer-polizeigesetz

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You're right. And if the vote is not completely ignored then often it's watered down in the legislative process to a degree you don't recognize anymore what you've voted for. I know, it was more the hopeful, then the realist in me writing these words. I go cry now. 😢

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Thanks for the link to the article.

I always considered switzerland as one of the only real democracies in the world because you have direct referenda. Am I wrong? Did they manahe to subvert the system? Or are those not binding.

The system is based on subversion. Votings are binding, but everything is a question of definition and the meaning of language. If media matrix (mass media) tells the citizen that everything is fine, then everything is fine, even if the house is burning.

Quick example how they ignore the votings:

Majority votes against vanilla icecream.

Politicians interpret it as: Majority is against plain vanilla icecream, it wants vanilla icecream with chocolate bits.

In theory your country has the ability to initiate proposals right? Is this deal with the devil style where in theory they could propose it in such a way that its really hard to circumvent? My country used to have referenda and they didn't do this because the referenda were non binding, they chose to plainly ignore it and then illegally removed them altogether.