And it (interest) made that pacifist hippie, the Jesus, whip out a bullwhip!
Discussion
John chapter 2:
14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:
15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables;
16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.
I believe it was the only time Jesus pulled out God's righteous anger.
It had more to do with the location where the sin was being committed than the nature of the sin, but yes this is the only documented time when Jesus got violent. Even Jesus who says you should love your enemy has no patience for the money changers. That says something.
Fair point. Very fascinating.
That wasn't about interest and money. That was about the state having a monopoly on offerings at the temple and taxing the shit out of the pilgrims who went there for worship, both at the temple and in their homelands.
You are absolutely wrong. It was completely about interest and usury. You should learn how to read.
Fuck you
DING DING DING!
Alright gentlemen back to your corners!
How's private property created again, capitalist "anarchist"?🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂
oh are you one of those morons? I'm sorry, I'll turn down the difficulty for you. No one is an authority over another. That's it. End of story. Money or no money, I don't give a fuck.
I understand anarchist theory. You obviously don't. How's private property created again there, "capitalist anarchist"?
His message wasn't exactly fuck the state. More that the workings of the state were irrelevant to the kingdom of heaven.
Mark 12:
13 ¶ And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words.
14 And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Cæsar, or not?
15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.
16 And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Cæsar’s.
17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Cæsar the things that are Cæsar’s, and to God the things that are God’s. And they marvelled at him.
There is SO much to unpack in that section.
I was just thinking about it today.
I feel like that's ultimately an anarchist stance in a way: the concept is that your ultimate authority is God, and that supercedes everything. Caesar literally owned the money they used, in a way. To be righteous goes beyond societal structure, it is something immediately actionable. I also think that the form of the argument invokes the concept of property in a way that suggests that one should be aware of ownership claims in the world and respect them, but only in as far as they do not conflict with what God wants for us.
One can deduce from a lot of what Jesus said anti-authority messages, though this particular one is not so clear-cut.
Hating the state is not necessarily loving your neighbor. I think Jesus is an anarchist olus, obviously, some additional awesome things. He's doing a lot at once with his teachings.
I'm a market anarchist. Depending on your understanding of capitalism and how you define it, I am against it (if you mean the current system of oppression), or all for it (if you mean freed markets, freed from authority).
I will not waste any more time on explaining things to you, you obviously don't want to learn about it. Sorry for my aggressive tone, though you were rather rude from the get-go. Don't bother trying to annoy me further.
You should learn how to look into historical context, or to be circumspect about your interpretation of a text that has been retranslated multiple times that was possibly a shoddy version of the truth to begin with.