Livera, but you should bring on a counterpoint person to make it a fulsome discussion. Also talk problem and potential solutions.
Look like nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 is avoiding opinions he disagrees with on his podcast, so which one should I go on instead to talk about hardware wallet issues? 
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Yea, I mean it’s not like anti-exfil is perfect it doesn’t have UX challenges in some specific use cases, would be great to have someone who doesn’t use it on, eg the Jade folks only use it when plugged in, not in air gapped mode.