Look like nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 is avoiding opinions he disagrees with on his podcast, so which one should I go on instead to talk about hardware wallet issues?

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Have you built a hardware wallet before? Not a troll, genuinely curious.

Not as a full-timer, but I’ve helped several hardware wallets in the design stage and have built Bitcoin wallets (and basically every other kind of Bitcoin protocol) over the past ~14 years.

Livera, but you should bring on a counterpoint person to make it a fulsome discussion. Also talk problem and potential solutions.

Yea, I mean it’s not like anti-exfil is perfect it doesn’t have UX challenges in some specific use cases, would be great to have someone who doesn’t use it on, eg the Jade folks only use it when plugged in, not in air gapped mode.

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Hopefully you get an invite so there can be an open discussion. If not, nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx nostr:npub10atn74wcwh8gahzj3m0cy22fl54tn7wxtkg55spz2e3mpf5hhcrs4602w3 would be good spot for discussion

I would be honored to have you on nostr:npub10qrssqjsydd38j8mv7h27dq0ynpns3djgu88mhr7cr2qcqrgyezspkxqj8

I respect the hell out of both you and nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 , and have learned a great deal from you both. I’ve always appreciated the two of you a great deal because I think you are both ruthlessly realistic while always remaining optimistic.

I think I’m probably in the same camp as a lot of less technical Bitcoiners where I don’t fully understand the finer details of HWW/signing devices that you guys debate, and would love to learn more. I can promise I will ask MANY dumb questions, but questions that I’m sure many others have.

I would offer to have you both on at once to discuss this together, but I do not know if I am capable of moderating that spicy of a discussion…

Either way, just wanted to pop in to say I appreciate you both.

VERSUS VERSUS VERSUS VERSUS .... have everyone, could use a little back n forth, huh?

I realized I said “great deal” twice… please don’t let it distract from the substance of my note.

I hate it when I do that sort of thing too. My brain is like what's a good way to describe this? And then somehow it's the same wording I just used.

Glad I’m not the only one 🙏

I support this. Walker's pod is a great place to get in to this

Another fine display of maturity from nvk 😂

I expect nothing less from the clown that is NVK.

Sorry but you're acting like a drama queen. He explained everything in a few tweets. (I haven't listened to the Podcast)

NO ONE will use this attack vector, if there are better options. If you infiltrate the supply chain you wouldn't try to compromise the signing algorithm, you would directly go to i.e. seed creation. There will never be 100% security and fixing this issue won't change anything, because you open up new attack vectors... I don't understand why you are so focused on this and what you try to prove here...

We'll be covering Dark Skippy in Friday's Optech Newsletter. I'm guessing nostr:nprofile1qqspgwdt6s5cz9j74nxdq34a2ed26x0jx99f8tvm6zdds03ng2lvn8cprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctvqy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkc2zf4ja would be happy to have you as a guest on the subsequent Recap podcast next Tuesday.

Your current hairstyle suits you better 👈