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😂

“What if the government bans bitcoin mining. They can check your energy consumption with the energy company you know” 🤡

Same energy in the middle 😂

“Oh you mean all my space heater sound machines? I get cold easily.”

Real cold 😂

Technically the middle could happen to corporate tech so by that metric you’d never use any service provider. 😂

🤣🤣

If we wanna get technical about it. 😂

In the case of nostr the corporate press will write hit pieces about how it’s a protocol for criminals. That’s a lot more likely.

For sure. Not to mention the fact that the “feds” could not actually takedown every relay and operator everywhere without a significant coordinated global effort. Also, relays store text, not media, so much of the illegal content most people think of is not actually hosted by relays at all.

The good news is that the government and most of its retarded workers are incompetent

tbh, nostr sould use onion and i2p to host relays at hkme

No

1. the feds mostly control the tor exit node already, use tor in in Washington, DC and its real fast.

2. the protocols is already way too slow for that

3. there's no need, nostr.build is routed through cloudflair to mitigate csam. giving operators a safety blanket.

4. who's going to build that for free when everyone who can dev already has two plates full of projects?

1,3. cloudflare is a us company. feds own it.

2. maybe, alternatives?

4. it is's a good idea, someone will eventually find free time to play with it

All nostr.build serves is media not text, so if it goes down, we just have broken media(kind 0, 1 pictures, audio, & videos) not the core text and all notes still work.

You'd have to solve global CDNs, and getting a different media handler wouldn't be no lesser evil because it's all just as centralized if Mystery-Owner-1 transfers it to Mystery-Owner-2. Maybe we offload all our images onto the relays but nostr won't scale any bigger if all new users have to pay upfront to post before they even learn conviction for the protocol.

I'm not trying to tell you you're completely wrong, it's just a really complex problem and hinting at things should change without proposing a solution/NIP doesn't move the wheel forward.

Keep thinking/learning about it all and maybe you'll end up contributing an important stepping stone later on.

The solution at some point will need to be what IPFS promised but never realistically delivered.

Files become special notes with a specific hash that are replicated across relays.

The second part is making all phone users becoming relays themselves, in essence making hard to go after tens of thousand relays hosting content.

Third step is encrypting that content on the devices, make sure node operators are not held responsible for the content hosted on their device.

phone users won't become relays. that will just kill the battery. phone users running their own relays at home in some way would work though, the same way we run lightning nodes on the pc, not at the phone. if not i2p, maybe, we could use torrents&magnet in some form? free message sizes could be limited to encourage this

You'd be surprised with the efficiency of push notifications.

I've got a personal nostr relay running on my phone, uses like 3% of the battery across the day.

This happens because there is no display involved, which tends to eat the most energy.

I'm on the left side I think

same. lolol

nostr is going to boil the ocean.