i'm not liking the idea of discussing creating a digital ghetto announced in public because the spammers might notice and simply swap relays, rendering the whole effort not only useless but also permanently tarnishing the reputation of the affected relays; on the other hand transparency is always appreciated
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It's the transparency I'm interested in. Because the spam issue is such a problem, it's important to understand where that's originating and to try and find a solution. It's not a "shame and shun" effort.
Pretty sure #[4] runs nostr.bg which would be his strfry implementation. With the exception of Vida I believe the rest of the paid relays are nostream and that’s being used by a lot of free ones too.
Wonder if there are any tools that could be shared between implementations to fight spam?
Yes I run the nostr.bg realy, strfry has no possibility to filter spam or rate limit the writes at the moment. If somebody has an idea what is possible to be done, will do it.
yeah, my point was basically to inform the ops of the afflicted relays so they could silently limit the scope of these spam posts without outright banning the accounts (so they could keep spamming to the void without them even noticing) but all things considered this could effectively signify the beginning of shadowbannings and/or isolated instances like what you can see currently in mastodon (and one of the main reasons why it sucks so much ass). it's an interesting topic surely, and weighing the pros and cons of the various options should be considered with care
should ask before pointing and acuse them of "offending"