Removing brb.io and nostr.bitcoiner.social nukes my contact list from 600 to 100, but my nostr experience is 10x faster. Sigh.

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A sign relays are currently too centralized 🤔

They are, but we're always going to do down this route unless relays put a cap on the amount of pubkeys reading or writing to them.

I don't think the centralization is as much of an issue when one can create their own relay, client, et cetera. It would be one thing if the projects were closed source, but since everything is open and able to be forked one can create the experience they want permissionless.

I think there is a nuance here,

Centralization can be an issue while censorship resistance being "unhindered".

For example : twitter centralization is an issue but the internet is by and large censorship resistant if you wanna use stenography.

Hm I don’t have an answer but I hope there’s a more elegant solution that incentivizes decentralization instead of forcing relay npub caps. That’s a sign the architecture trends towards centralization which isn’t robust.

Hoping people smarter than me build "search and cache relays" that charge sats for giving you a feed. That way clients can scale and relays don't have to serve every single client.

Those "Search and cache" can be use-case specific : For example : Facebook feed, twitter feed, reddit feed etc .... but we can all just use the same protocol and have open relays all over the world.

Layering may cause some centralisation on cache servers but at the same time, you can build your own and pay for access to the "archival servers" on a post-basis.

Disclaimer :  I'm an idiot and know nothing.

The contacts are still there... they might not get your notes directly anymore, though

I don't see theirs now. I am no longer following them.

Heh. I am no longer following you.

Do you see me?

I only see you in iris, not nostrgram.

We have eden and snort a common relays..

I am having the same issue

Are those your only remaining unpaid relays?

What effect does it have on your global feed?

I don't really use global feed any longer. I haven't since the penis party.

I’m going to switch to only paid relays soon and see if that makes everything better.

Lol that’s quite fair. I’m still trying to meet and greet newbies but gotta tread carefully 😂

How does one select a “non-Global” feed?

Any unpaid relay completely nukes my global feed with spam

Post the relay, please.

ok, i'll kick em too ... if you won't hear of me again, you know why 🍻😂