Your client literally censors ppl for no reason, including me.
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Yep, and it's written in the code that everyone can see. That is my point. People can use Onyx if they dont like the filter or simply disable the filters in Amethyst's settings.
However, you have no idea if relays are censoring you or not (hint, they are).
Yes, but there will be thousands of relays. Anyone can setup their own relay and others can broadcast the note to other relays.
Very few people have the ability to create their own client. Right now, if 5 clients decide to censor a user, nobody would ever see them.
There are dozens of clients already. Hopefully, we get to thousands. You don't need to create one from scratch, you can just fork it and remove the things you don't like... like Onyx did.
Clients make 100s of decisions in the visibility of posts. For instance, Amethyst didn't show non-like reactions until this week. They were always displayed as red hearts. Is that censorship? To some extent, yes. But if so, then every client is censoring everyone, all the time.
Don't trust anyone. Not relays, not clients. The only thing you can be sure of is the code that you can see and verify. If you can't verify, hire somebody who can, or fund a group that does it for you (but then you are trusting the group).
The idea that ppl should just “learn to code”, or pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to vet an app they’re using is simply ridiculous.
It's not that expensive. Lots of people do it for free like Tony did with Onyx.
But welcome to real freedom.
Censoring a hug emoji because your client hasn’t implemented it is much different than censoring the text of a note. Damus doesn’t render markdown, but the words are still there.
I’m a bit confused about what you’re arguing for. If relays already censor, and we cannot verify what they’re doing, how does it help to have an open-source client that explicitly tells you they censor? That’s just adding more censorship.
At least if I feel like 5 relays are censoring me, I can add 10 more. If I’m censored on Amethyst, I may never know that 1000s of people aren’t seeing my notes, and they also don’t know I even exist.
I have that problem rn. I literally don’t know who can see my posts because of Vitor’s censorship.
He doesn’t seem receptive to reason, and seems to condone using reports as a valid means to censor ppl, considering it doesn’t stop spam at all.
Ok but your distributed unaccountable censorship system (which should be opt-in btw) can’t be challenged. If a relay claims they do not censor, it’s a lot easier for me as a non-technical person to verify that than it is to go into a bunch of code I have no idea how to read and find out how you’re censoring me (which you are btw).
Relays have an incentive to abide by the policies they establish, and they can be exposed if they’re lying.
Your system has no recourse, and there’s literally nothing I can do to contest being censored by the policies you arbitrarily set (that gives weight to false reports for whatever reason), particularly since many ppl can’t even see me.
Not to mention how ppl have told you that they literally had no idea your app was censoring ppl. “Read the code” isn’t a reasonable suggestion, most ppl can’t.
Also there are tools that you can use to check whether your posts are being relayed.