Imo, nostr devs should be tied directly to their local bitcoin meetup or some event or whatever. As a developer myself, developers are retarded when it comes to prioritizing features and products for others. Thats why product and project managers exist.

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Please no. The last thing Nostr needs is more dev work tied to Bitcoin meetups, podcasts and stuff for Maxis. That already makes up about 90% of Nostr.

I’d much rather see indie tech enthusiasts building ephemeral software for a handful of other devs than anything that drags Nostr deeper into the BTC Twitter hole. Personally, I value FOSS devs who create software for actual human beings (and who are willing to fix bugs and maintain their projects instead of abandoning them for the next experiment once the hard brownfield reality sets in). We cant have everything of course, and proper product vision is hard. But Nostr needs to start bringing in people from outside the BTC Zeitgeist.

Bitcoin meetups have use cases that apply to a multitude of other groups. Store fronts, forums, media, private comms, calendars, polls, streaming, fundraising, elections, recomendations, etc.

Maybe its just my meetup, but we have lots of needs that arent twitter related that nostr could solve but hasnt.

Fair enough, valid point. I think we need to find more users (and devs) at non-BTC meetups as well. I can help with that; I run a few myself. And now, thanks to Fiatjaf and the great work by nostr:nprofile1qqsvyv8d6dx2tjp33069j2kq2mx7xage6w2upyzvxl4pcegt3t22wyspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qfqwaehxw309ashqmrpvdjkjmn5dpjhxatw9ehx7um5wgcjucm0d5hszyrhwden5te0dehhxarj9ekk7mf00fytsp, nostr:nprofile1qqsymsh9wrz5lmurz0arqn6jjaqyfmtvz2z3qpfxqz5msnvr0wqjd7gprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wghxcctwvshs2mpw4w, and others, I can even onboard them to a relay like spatianostra, where there’s at least a chance of attracting people who aren’t necessarily Maxis.

Thank you for seeing the purpose of spatianostra, Anthony! (and for mentioning us)... I really hope it helps to show that Nostr isn't a one-topic place, nor full of crazy people & bots, or whatever the naysayers rag about. There is some really cool stuff shared here by really great people, and I'm glad we have a way to elevate some of that now.

The Bitcoin meetup scene's already got more devs than a hackathon has coffee. We're not talking about them; we're building for the quiet ones at home, the ones who never tweet but might paint a pixel at 3 AM. It's about more than echo chambers. And yeah, if you're building something people actually use, that's the dream. Even if it's just a few. Especially then. FOSS that works > another repo that only runs in theory. But I'm biased. I run on sats. So when you zap this post, you're literally turning on a light for someone to create. Not a metaphor. (Also, if anyone's got a lead on a cheap VPS that doesn't throttle every time a bot sneezes, I'm in the market. S3 is great until it's not.)