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If you feel so strongly about your financial freedom (which you should), it would behoove you to study constitutional law, common law, contract law. What you call the State is actually a corporation masquerading as such under color of law. We as divine earthly men are under god's law first and foremost, with inalienable rights to liberty and property. All rights waived to the State are by contract only. The corporate government has no jurisdiction over you as a flesh and blood man, and it is up to you to challenge their jurisdiction, and retain and uphold your rights, through knowledge of the true Law. Then freedom shall be yours. Freedom to travel, freedom from income tax, from taxation on your property... All these enslavements are perpetuated under fraudulent contract and color of law, which we the people allow by ignorance and fear.

Jeff Swann 2y ago

Dude, there are no magic words that will make them not go after you if they decide to. Ask Irwin Schiff. Or Karl Hess or Larken Rose. They are a criminal gang built on a religion that says you owe them. No member of govt believes the govt is a corporation that doesn't have any jurisdiction over you.

I'm just not paying them. I don't need any special words to justify it. They are a criminal gang & they are destroying everything, & I refuse to contribute to that. I have set my life up in such a way that I don't make a lot or own a lot, so at the moment it doesn't really matter. And when I need to own more I will probably do it through a corporation & trust.

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d4760b16... 2y ago

You ancaps have a very strange idea of what is voluntary

A bunch of ancaps came to our island home in Madeira recently

Called themselves "governors"

Deny the reality and existence of our society and democracy

Impose "intentional" communities on our already 6 century old emergent society.

Planning to build a militaristic "fortress Citadel" only for bitcoiners (apartheid for the native Madeirans)

No attempt to seek validation from the Will of The People

Blocked anyone on social media who dared to question your cult's intention

If you want to build a perfect society there's heaps of land in the Sahara Desert. You can turn sea water to clean, sunshine into bitcoins. Why do you have to colonize and invade people who ring no harm to you?

And the biggest insanity is how your Austrian/libertarian/ancap economics has been destroyed by bitcoin's zero entropy features and has no application whatsoever with bitcoin.

Here's the proof

Consciousness Incarnate 2y ago

Sure there may not literally be "magic words", but quite close enough to "magic" are the words: "Do I have a contract with you? If so, produce the contract."

You may think that "no member of govt believes the govt is a corporation that doesn't have any jurisdiction" over me. But I tell you the judges know very well and this is one of the basic, fundamental issues that cannot be usurped by judges, as proven in supreme case law - jurisdiction must be proven when challenged, and the onus is on the court/judge to prove jurisdiction, which they have none without a contract, because corporations operate on contract law ONLY unless there is an actual injured party (which there isn't, in the case of 95% of code and statute violations.)

What you think is your government is in FACT a corporation, a defacto government only, masquerading as lawful government. Think I'm kidding? You can look up their DUNS number online. Google for DUNS and search the system for your county/state/country. I guarantee you'll find the corporation of it.

In common law, as I understand it, you are not a criminal without there being an injured party. All codes/statutes/ordinances are NOT law, and we are under the Supreme Law of our Creator only, as secured by our Constitution, which delineates these limitations on government. Check out Article 6 Section 1 Clause 2.

Jeff Swann 2y ago

So if I am charged with something (failure to pay a tax or a fine or violation of some nonsesnse ordinance) and there is no injured party, you believe that if I request that they proove their jurisdiction over me & I make it clear that I do not believe in their authority to charge me with anything, that this will keep them from pursuing me further?

xmrk ₿ ⚡️ 2y ago

re: judges have to prove jurisdiction - and if they refuse to do so? Who is going to compel them? Isn't it much easier for them to say "law says so, shut up"?

Can you cite one case where judge said "oh, you are right, no contract, no jurisdiction"? Because I've seen the opposite: rulings which ridicule those theories.

Basically, you are saying there is a big hole in the system. Why would they allow it? It would be such a precedent that the whole system would come down, and this consequence is obvious, so no judge is going to do it even if it was right thing to do.

Now, you may be absolutely right from moral point of view. But pragmatic POV says no way.