I wish I was as certain as you
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we should embrace the future
maybe your job gets replaced
just look for some new trades
There is almost no limit to what cannot be automated to do a sufficient job. Either it’s automated or way we use it changes to accommodate that automation.
On a long enough scale our prospects shrink significantly.
i am optimistic, your life is worth living
i dont buy into the ai replace all humans theory !!!!
I don’t attach any emotional state to my statements. I’m don’t feel one way or the other and just state what I see.
i dont see a functional replicator
within 50 years
or what do you see exactly?
Ai managed bitcoin mining dao that produces its own ASICS?
yes until AI robots build their own mining farm
AI will be just in a baby state in my view
I'm not sure why we are talking about functional replicators
You're conflating two separate concepts. AI and machines can outperform humans at mental and physical tasks without negating our own value of life. He's just pointing out reality. That doesn't mean he has any negative emotions toward his own existence.
projecting your anxieties about your petty little existence on the world is not very helpful or mature
this is the central reason for the existence of faith - you know that the answer is out there, instead of this ridiculous pessimistic certainty that there isn't an answer
you are never gonna find an answer with that attitude
Faith isn't finding an answer. It's creating one without evidence and accepting it as fact even if it isn't. Replacing his attitude with irrationality like yours isn't an improvement. It's a downgrade.
I actually don't have an attitude about what I say one way or another. People like to assign their attitudes to my statements by projecting their insecurities.
They're conflating different concepts. One can acknowledge reality without relinquishing value of their own life and what they do with it. A painter can still paint even if AI bots can technically do it better. Will someone buy it? I don't know, probably. But there's a very real possibility that technology will eventually make life so cheap that it hardly matters.
I feel understood at last.
cheap life isn't worth living, so i would argue that this plastic replica stuff that you get from AI will get boring really fast, and if anything it will drive people back to the old ways more effectively than the best viral marketing campaign
Faith is an emotional state.
only a person who has no creativity would not understand that sometimes you know the answer sometimes just waiting for it to pop out of the air
there is a rational explanation for it too... the impossible is an absolute, so almost everything is possible, if you roll the dice enough times
so even though it sounds like magical thinking, that's only because you've never tried to solve a problem nobody solved before and succeeded
Faith is realizing not all truth is within your power to apprehend, by definition. It's first coming to terms with the existence of unknown unknowns. In the case of the Christian faith, it's understanding that it's impossible for a these unknowns to become known by definition (in the sense of fully understood) — and yet necessary to their definition (only a good, personal God can create people with any good in them) that they be made known (in the sense of revealed, apprehensible). This leads to hope — the idea that our souls might be fundamentally transformed to enter more fully into the mystery of the known (revealed) unknown.
That's a long winded way of confirming what I said. I'd also be cautious when claiming that things are unknowable. We now know a lot of things that were once unknowable. Faith is irrational belief in something without evidence. Do that if you want, but adding a lot of words and pseudo philosophy won't change that. Faith is an emotional state. It isn't based in reality or fact.
only someone who doesn't experience it thinks that, sucks to be you
Lol I used to be a Christian with a lot of faith and my life was absolutely worse than it is now. Thanks for playing. Really enjoyed the high IQ points.
so your life is better now because you think you can piss on other people's world views because yours is superior, right?
or is it that you are in some kind of social group where you get kudos for pissing on other people?
let's play a game, and find out what your weak point is so i can stick a nice big mind-spike into it
No, it's the opposite of what you said. If you haven't read Mere Christianity by Lewis, I recommend it as required reading for anyone who wants to talk about faith in an informed way.
Just because I haven't read your one proposed book doesn't mean I don't understand what faith is. This particular discussion is fruitless at this point, but thanks for it anyway.
ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find
never give in to evil but proceed ever more vigorously against it
They shrink infinitely, since robots can eventually outperform humans at everything. Tesla is already making massive strides in dexterity.