Let's say there is a company whose sole purpose is to evaluate relay operators and offer relay list recommendations to the best ones.

How much would you pay for that service?

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$0.10/month

i would actually pay for this, because i am so confused still on what to put for my relays

What makes a good relay, from the perspective of the average user?

Don’t most people just add a bunch of free random relays for redundancy, and everything just kind of works?

A reliable service that doesn't randomly delete your posts or your zaps, etc.

Yeah, most people just put a bunch of relays and it works for a while until everything starts disappearing and they realize their posts were never there in the first place and half of their relay are not even accepting the types of events they are sending...

Not paying attention to reliable relay lists is a terrible idea.

I do not even know how to check which relays rejected my notes. Is this easy to see on #amethyst?

Few thousand sats a year

Brilliant idea. If it included ongoing monitoring and alerts of ecash mints as well as relays, I could see paying a $1/month.

Like AAA ratings?

how do you evaluate a relay operator?

is he judgmental? is she acting based on personal views? is she spiteful ? is he fat?

All of them.

+ How fast can he run a REQ call :)

I would say privacy is high on the list. Maybe a bit like VPNs. Very few relays or devs call out privacy, right now -- I can think of about 2 -- but in future it could be something that users value.

I think before turning it into a business, a “relay standard” must be established. Bare minimums must be met. How are they going to know what a good relay is from bad.

I'd pay **attention** to it. Could monetize it with ads. I'd also probably pay a thousand sats if it's paywalled instead.

Info for reliable relays would fluctuate in value substantially because of how easy it becomes to copy that information or rediscover it: see what your friends use, post a snapshot of the list, etc., so the value to users would dip down until the company came up with new information that fewer people had or that people would find more valuable on net again. If it does a good job vetting and informing, there will always be new info that some nontrivial number of users will find worth paying for, but it requires this diligence due to the low low cost of duplicating info, to get any substantial revenue.

To additionally keep a **consistent** revenue, advertisements or a consistently cheap and frictionless transaction experience would be necessary to make sure customers keep coming to check. Adding complementary services like nostr onboarding tips or something, adjacent to the relay list as an option, might also increase the likelihood of the service being used by first timers.

Why would you solely evaluate the operator and not base the recommendation on the actual relay service/operation?

That's what I meant by evaluating the operator.

Boa noite, Victor.

Colocar em "mute" um integrante é o mesmo que bloqueá-lo? Como devo proceder para determinado usuário nunca mais aparecer na timeline?

Obrigado!

(Agora estou pelo PC via NOSTTER)

Isso

I think the evaluation should be done by users not a company. Companies can be bought, bribed and they will be bought, bribed if we go this way.

A big wapping zero. I'm gonna use what my homies use

That's like saying would you pay for a service that evaluates forums and forum operators so gives you recommendations on the best forums.

Replace forums with social media, or online shops etc.

Very few people would pay for that type of service. What is your overall goal? are you trying to help relays make more money so they can improve the software or something of that sort?

Maybe relays that you chose get a Satoshi everytime you make a post or use an event. I'm not sure but the relay softwares is also not being developed. I don't see any issues with relays there is many free ones. The worse thing about relays is probably they might delete your old posts and that's all. Nothing drastic.

I would literally pay you a billion if you could turn amethyst into a reddit style client.

If I had the money I'd be cash apping it to like right fuckin now.

That's right because we need to introduce single point of failures.

Why would the government worry about banning relays when they can just ban the service everyone uses to find them.

12000 satoshis with additional messaging via dm like a weather status for running and defunct relays, all where the user can monitor uptime from apps like 0xChat or keychat

Uptime from relays and Nostr self hosted apps. But they can’t be on GitHub to be doing this truly. You understand the POWER of version control and why it is restricted to a few. That’s reflects a systemic flaw. I think to maintain economic control Nostr devs should boycott GitHub