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Now wait minute! Who's seeking to be like the devil?

You are! You all are! You've even created religions that tell you that you are born in sin—that you are sinners at birth—in order to convince yourselves of your own evil. Yet if I told you you are born of God—that you are pure Gods and Goddesses at birth—pure love—you would reject me.

All your life you have spent convincing yourself that you are bad. Not only that you are bad, but that the things you want are bad. Sex is bad, money is bad, joy is bad, power is bad, having a lot is bad—a lot of anything. Some of your religions have even got you believing that dancing is bad, music is bad, celebrating life is bad. Soon you'll agree that smiling is bad, laughing is bad, loving is bad.

No, no, my friend, you may not be very clear about many things, but about one thing you are clear: you, and most of what you desire, are bad. Having made this judgment about yourself, you have decided that your job is to get better.

It's okay, mind you. It's the same destination in any event—it's just that there's a faster way, a shorter route, a quicker path.

Which is?

Acceptance of Who and What You Are right now—and demonstration of that.

This is what Jesus did. It is the path of the Buddha, the way of Krishna, the walk of every Master who has appeared on the planet.

And every Master has likewise had the same message: What I am, you are. What I can do, you can do. These things, and more, shall you also do.

Yet you have not listened. You have chosen instead the far more difficult path of one who thinks he is the devil, one who imagines he is evil.

You say it is difficult to walk the path of Christ, to follow the teachings of the Buddha, to hold the light of Krishna, to be a Master. Yet I tell you this: it is far more difficult to deny Who You Are than to accept it.

You are goodness and mercy and compassion and understanding. You are peace and joy and light. You are forgiveness and patience, strength and courage, a helper in time of need, a comforter in time of sorrow, a healer in time of injury, a teacher in times of confusion. You are the deepest wisdom and the highest truth; the greatest peace and the grandest love. You are these things. And in moments of your life you have known yourself as these things.

Choose now to know yourself as these things always.

— Neale Donald Walsch, Conversations with God: An Uncommon Dialogue (Book 1)

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Independent Thinker 10mo ago

"Wait a minute—let’s clarify something important.

The idea that humans are 'born in sin' or inherently evil isn’t the full picture, and it’s often misinterpreted. Similarly, the claim that we’re 'pure Gods and Goddesses at birth' also misses the mark.

Here’s what the *original teachings* of the Abrahamic scriptures— Bible, Torah, and Quran—actually say:

Humans are created with immense dignity and potential. We’re made in the image of God, as stewards of the Earth, and endowed with the capacity for both good and evil.

These texts don’t teach that we’re born sinful or divine; instead, they emphasize balance. We’re capable of greatness, but we’re also flawed and in need of divine guidance and mercy.

- The fall of Adam and Eve reminds us of our vulnerability to wrongdoing, but it doesn’t define us as irredeemable. Repentance, humility, and striving for righteousness are central to restoring our connection with God.

- The Torah teaches that we have both an inclination for good (*yetzer ha-tov*) and an inclination for evil (*yetzer ha-ra*).

Our task is to choose good, follow God’s laws, and live ethically.

- The Quran calls us *khalifah* (stewards) and affirms that we’re created in the best of forms, but it also warns against arrogance and forgetfulness.

We’re encouraged to seek Allah’s mercy, live with humility, and fulfill our purpose.

👉 The problem arises when people take these teachings out of context or interpret them through personal opinions rather than the *unaltered messages* of these texts.

For instance:

- Saying we’re 'born in sin' can lead to unnecessary guilt, but ignoring our capacity for wrongdoing can lead to arrogance.

- Claiming we’re 'pure Gods' at birth risks inflating our ego, while forgetting our need for divine guidance risks losing our way.

The truth is, these scriptures teach balance: we’re capable of greatness, but we’re also flawed and in need of God’s mercy and guidance. They call us to humility, self-improvement, and gratitude—not to self-hatred or self-deification.

So, why does it matter? Because taking people’s opinions over the *unaltered messages leads to confusion, division, and spiritual misguidance.

These texts are meant to uplift, guide, and unite us—not to make us feel worthless or to inflate our egos. Let’s return to the source, seek understanding, and live with the balance and wisdom these teachings offer.

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Ava 10mo ago

Ah, my friend—it seems you're still caught in the very ignorance I'm speaking to. You're still trying to convince yourself and others that you're less than divine, just wrapping it in the words of one who still believes they are born a sinner at birth.

We are Gods and Goddesses at birth—pure love—individuations of the All-in-All. Yet look how quickly you rush to reject this truth, to seek refuge in being "flawed but capable."

Consider what the great Masters taught about our true nature. When Jesus said "I and the Father are one," and "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods'"—he wasn't speaking of being "balanced" as a natural born sinner—he was declaring the truth of his divine nature, and ours.

While there is no punishment in the realm of the absolute, there are natural consequences in the realm of the relative. These aren't "payback" but simply the way life works: outcomes arise from outputs. We are creative beings with free will, experiencing and evolving ourselves through our choices.

Divine judgment doesn't exist—it's a human construct, not a cosmic reality. What we call "karmic punishment" as traditionally understood—the idea of cosmic payback or debt—also doesn't exist. If The One were to judge or condemn us, It would be judging and condemning Itself—as we are inseparable from source. If God judged us, She would be judging Herself, and if He condemned us, He would be condemning himself.

The teaching, echoed throughout ages across many traditions and faiths, is about acceptance of our divine essence. It's about releasing the need to see ourselves as anything less than what we truly are: pure expressions of divine love.

Remember, the longest journey isn't between good and evil—it's the journey from your head to your heart, from forgetting to remembering, from separation to oneness.

Independent Thinker 10mo ago

"Thank you for sharing this beautiful perspective—it’s thought-provoking and resonates with some truths, but there are a few points where it diverges from the teachings of the Abrahamic scriptures, scientific understanding, and philosophical reasoning.

Let’s explore...

**On Being 'Divine at Birth'**

While it's beautiful to affirm our inherent dignity and connection to the Divine, the Abrahamic scriptures (Ethiopian Bible (I believe the less altered one), Torah, Quran) teach that humans are created in the image of God but are not divine themselves (not at least in this earthly physical form, but we sure have the potential to set us 'free'.)

We’re stewards, not gods. Jesus' statement, 'I and the Father are one' reflects his unique role, not a blanket declaration of human divinity.

Similarly, Psalm 82:6 (“You are gods”) is often misinterpreted—it refers to humans as judges or representatives of God’s justice, not as literal deities.

**On Flaws and Free Will**

The idea that we’re “flawed but capable” isn’t a denial of our potential—it’s a recognition of our humanity.

Science and philosophy both affirm that humans are imperfect beings with the capacity for growth. Quantum physics, for instance, shows that uncertainty and potential are fundamental to existence. *Free will* allows us to choose between good and evil, and this choice is central to our spiritual journey.

**On Divine Judgment and Karma**

While it’s true that God’s essence is love and mercy, the Abrahamic scriptures also emphasize accountability.

Divine judgment isn’t about punishment but about justice and the natural consequences of our actions. This aligns with the scientific principle of cause and effect. For example, if we harm the environment, we face climate consequences—not as “payback” but as natural outcomes.

**On Oneness and Separation**

The journey from separation to oneness is a profound truth echoed in many spiritual traditions, including Sufism, Kabbalah, and Christian mysticism. However, this oneness does not eliminate individuality or moral responsibility. Even in quantum physics, particles can be entangled (unified) while still maintaining their unique properties.

🤝 Where I fully agree with you is the importance of remembering our divine essence and moving from the head to the heart. The teachings of Jesus, the Buddha, and many other spiritual masters all bear witness to this universal truth. But this journey isn’t about denying our humanity—it’s about embracing both our potential and our imperfections, striving to align with divine will, and living with humility and gratitude.

Let's remember that we are both limited and limitless, both human and divine in purpose, flawed but capable of extraordinary goodness. 🙏