In a centralized system, the central authority can take action against spammers that benefits all users. However, they can also take actions that hurt all users.

In a decentralized system, users are protected from a centralized authority acting against them, but it means they also must take on the responsibility of acting for their own benefit, since no cental authority exists who can do it for them.

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nice excuse but doesn't scale and if that's your solution nostr is dead

the actual nostr solution must be to use relays as filters somehow

Which requires users to take respinsibility by choosing or running their own quality relays.

What I said is not an excuse, it's a simple reality. And maybe that means Nostr will die because people cannot handle the responsibility of freedom.

It is. The whole idea is to connect to or operate relays that align with your preferences. The things that make nostr censorship resistant also enable tight censorship on a small scale with the option to opt out. It's about keeping the exits open. That point is lost when relays are hidden and keys are obscured away, though. Trying to dumb it down rather than leaning into unique possibilities, I believe, is hurting more than helping. People are dealing with these things they need but don't understand and are told they don't need to think about them until they do, which is usually when something bad is happening. They could instead be exploring fun options and learning how to manage those bad situations in the process. There's just very few ways to interact on the protocol like that right now, because who wants to build half a bridge and hope someone else will build the other half? That would be terribly frustrating.