Nostr Web Client

Many people external to Nostr perceive it as a single community of "crypto" or Bitcoin lovers.

People inside Nostr also feel like they're in a very warm and friendly "community" too.

One perception probably reinforces the other, and both damage the idea of Nostr as a neutral, open protocol that can accommodate any type of community.

aljaz 5mo ago 💬 9

We're missing the point with this "nostr needs to be for other people than bitcoiners". You can't believe in hyperbitconization and orange pilling the world and then say "but other people don't like to play with us".

Maybe the idea is to make bitcoiners the most awesome group of people to hang out with and everyone wants to join nostr because of that?

Another point is also since we're focusing on other things now - if other stuff have product market fit and it solves peoples problems then people will come naturally.

Nobody needed to be orange pilled to buy things from silk road, they saw the utility because they wanted the product. Why does nostr have to become something else to please the broader crowd, maybe it can just become awesome enough that everyone wants to join the current crowd?

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fiatjaf 5mo ago

If we achieve hyperbitcoinization then everybody will just talk about Bitcoin everyday?

SuiGenerisJohn 5mo ago

Opposite

aljaz 5mo ago

why are you worrying about that now, we can't even get all bitcoiners here

fiatjaf 5mo ago 💬 1

What I'm trying to say is that you don't have to talk about Bitcoin all the time if you're a Bitcoiner.

fiatjaf 5mo ago 💬 1

Well, that was poorly phrased, what I actually meant was: not all the people have to talk about Bitcoin all the time. Some people of course will, and that is fine and good, it's just not great that we _only_ have those people on Nostr currently.

This is of course a hyperbole, we don't just have these people, but we have a lot of them, and that is one of the factors that make some people (who may even like Bitcoin, I know some) not want to use Nostr.

I'm not saying people reading this message should stop talking about Bitcoin, that's not what I'm saying, please. In fact I'm not saying you (the generic reader of this note) should do anything.

All I'm doing is raising a point and hoping there may be some solutions (probably related to using relays to organize content, loosely-defined communities and niches of interest like I mentioned on my other note from yesterday and also tangent to nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7am0wshxgar0dehkutnrdakj7qg6waehxw309ac8junpd45kgtnxd9shg6npvchxxmmd9uq3zamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3camnwvaz7tmrda6kuarjd9jhxtnxd9shg6npvchxxmmd9uqzq77777lz9hvwt86xqrsyf2jn588ewk5aclf8mavr80rhmduy5kq9m0q3eg's idea) that we (by we I mean actually anyone reading this message that may have the urge to do anything) should look into implementing.

Thank you for understanding.

Piriya ⚡🟧 5mo ago

What I noticed from going to Bitcoin conferences around the world is that we rarely talks about Bitcoin.

I mean, yeah, there's that occasionally bashing of the Fiat system, and some deep tech conversations here and there, but mostly we just talk about normal, everyday stuff. Mostly about food and lifestyle.

Valentino Giudice 5mo ago

I think many perceive that social media in general, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, got worse over time. But they still have network effect.

It's hard to describe it, but people should find on Nostr a similar experience to what mainstream platforms used to offer (it worked for them!). It will likely remain for people who are more technically knowledgeable than average, which may be a bad (fewer people) or a good (people can use the tool well) thing.

Exodia38 5mo ago

There's nothing wrong with wanting other people on Nostr and working towards that end. That's the whole point of it