This is one of the posts that I would be worried posting on centralized media, but I trust in Nostr to handle ok-ish.

I noticed an interesting "conflict" on social media (Nostr included) about the war and specifically in Ukraine.

We have a person (A) that lives in (or has close association with) Ukraine, their friends have died, their homes are under attack by an army holding Russian flag. They want to defend their home, they fight back, they want to destroy the group that's trying take over their home.

We have another person (B) that takes the perspective of how war is pointless, how it's actually being caused, financed and controlled by either specific country (USA, Germany, China, etc) or a specific shadow group to gain some advantage on the geopolitical field. Person (B) suggests that we should dethrone those shadow groups, we should remove their power, we should not participate in their wars.

First person (A) vents with some specific event/situation on Nostr, Twitter, etc and person (B) replies with their perspective and suggest that person (A) should not participate on the war or explains their virtue in some way. This triggers person (A) since they have only two options - flee their home (risky), or defend it against the group attacking (risky).

And now (A) and (B) go back and forth, providing more arguments to support their vantage point perspective. But the thing is - they are both right and they agree with each other aggressively without knowing it. They just talk in different layers and timeframes of the situation that don't really intersect.

My hope is that highlighting this disconnect will help (A) and (B) actually connect on the shared cause for freedom and peace.

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Yes.

But. And to be transparent, I write this more as a person A…

This war has the obvious bad guy and that’s Russians. We can argue about secret USA biolabs, financing or laundering money, financing an endless war… I get that. I do. That person B perspective is undeniably true as well.

But the Russians started unprovoked agression in Ukraine, they rolled in in tanks, butchering civilians left and right, pillaging, raping, murdering…

We should all be person A when it comes to civilian lives. That does’t mean we don’t need to overthrow evil men on both sides. But let’s do this when and only Ukraine stands free again.

That’s my A-B-ish point of view.

The Russian intervention was not unprovoked. When I read your post here, don't take it bad, I feel like I just turned on CNN. The west did everything they could to provoke this war at least since Maidan, the colour revolution fomented by the US. To be specific, François Hollande, french president at tge time has been tricked into admiting that the west never intended to implement the Minsk agreements and that they were co-signed with germany only to make time to arm Ukraine in preparation for war. Moreover in february 2022, Ukraine forces were getting ready to move on the Dombas and the Russians pre-empted the Ukrainian strikes by moving in first to protect the russian speaking parts of Ukraine. There is a lot to say about this conflict, but clearly the propaganda of the west has been intense. It's frightening really to see the manipulation of the masses. May I suggest you find some videos featuring Jeffrey Sachs ? I'm not siding with the russians here, I'd just like to point out that the first victim in any war is truth and free reporting. We owe it to ourselves to avoid any manipulation by listening to both parties.

Great points. I enjoyed reading this.