Agree podcasts were not made for music but the podcasting 2.0 spec that was subsequently developed was built for it and works well. The underlying nature of RSS is its simply a consensus standard for metadata and reflinks. Music, aside from the media file itself, is all about metadata.

FWIW we started out on nostr and found RSS after. We are in the unique position of understanding the true industry needs beyond that of the consumer only. We are simply in a position that requires us to understand and contemplate vital components of the industry that most people dont ever consider.

As an open protocol, it does not need to "evolve" as the tools around it cam evolve. That's shitcoin thinking. Just like Bitcoin doesnt need the fanciest shitcoin gadgets to be the hardest money on earth, RSS works.

Look at it this way... lets say we want to rebuild the music industry from scratch off the backbone of either RSS or Nostr only.

With Nostr there are no real distribution channels. How many active users (customers) are there? Where is your content coming from? Do you have a ton of artists here posting nostr-native original content? Or are you just gonna snag from YouTube and pretend like nostr is doing music now? You're building from ground up and thats a tall tree to climb.

With RSS, there are millions of users (customers) and thousands of shows (distribution) being published regularly with a significant back catalog magnitude larger than what nostr has, already accruing. There are hundreds of artists and podcasters publishing music RSS feeds right now. All of this with a proper ***dynamic*** metadata transfer workflow. RSS ecosystem has content, publishing and distribution already solved.

And lets talk tech for a moment, two major flaws in nostr preventing it from being usable as a core backbone...

1) it is good with Immutable data but terrible with dynamic data. Metadata records often need to be altered. No delete.

2) Not only are nostr notes static, even if you create subsequent updated copies, its hard to know what is the most recent update due to the nature of relays. If an artist updates their splits and sends a new note depricatinf the previous, how do you know every relay feeding your data also recieved the update? Are you paying people who shouldnt be paid? Are people not getting paid? (Whats your true follower count?)

But that is not to say nostr has nothing to offer. In fact, i believe nostr has two essential core competencies and value-add.

1) digital identity and WoT reputation

This ecosystem has no algos so discovery (distribution) is very important. Peer to peer discovery via nostr social layer is an essential missing part the RSS community has had to slow grind for decades and caps overall growth (artists aren't coming to an ecosystem where its hard to discover)

2) NWC

We have a weird situation where there is no optimal solution. Zaps are fast but lack enough fields to pass enough metadata. Boosts work great but no one supports keysend. Enter NWC. If we can bolt nostr onto rss with a separate metadata delivery NIP (yes, it would be somewhat shoehorning nostr in a bit), NWC, paired with "nostr logins", creates friction less boosting and opens up a whole slew of wallet creation/onboarding options.

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Okay ..let's step back .. music has never been a podcast play and will never be .. music is a special blessing .. it is not like anyone can pick a mic and start blabbering into it .. music needs years of dedication and equally important is financial backing .... there is no way a music artist can survive on v4v model .. this is not something new I discovered. It is reality .. that is why you never see any big any known artist podcasting their music .. if you are a musician, my humble request is to forget podcasting ..spend that time in building great music , doing public concerts and hitting viral social media .

With music out of the way , we can focus on talk shows .. these shows are typical made by people who don't need survival money ... So yes v4v is a good metrics ...that's all ..

That said , the podcasting RSS idea is dated .. in Nostr , if you take a bird eye view .. every event is an RSS feed ( on steroids) .. so when you have Tensors ..you don't need vectors .. or scalers .. they are just a special case .. you know what I mean .. nostr makes everything a decentralized RSS ..

There can be a case for supporting old tech .. if it was truly serving some plebs or a decentralized web ..but the truth is ..it doesn't .. podcasting verse is 99 percent captured by Apple and Spotify and Google .. so there is no good cause here ..

It is time to say good bye to podcasting .. it worked well for whatever ..

Btw .. even in hot days of podcasting .. music was a Napster thing .. if you can build a similar thing ..then yes .. light the fire under fat asses :-)

So I will only speak towards music because that is our expertise. We are a music group that runs a traditional record label, a management company, and a v4v only music group (this acct).

A bit of our background credentials: Hash Power Music has a collective legacy music industry experience of over 60 years. Our head of A&R opened for Motley Crue and Cinderella in the 70s, has Blake Shelton and Miley Cyrus songwriting credits, and was the one who discovered Lady Antebellum when working at Capitol Records. We have been in and around the music industry for a long time.

We have seen the inner workings of the industry and it stinks so we set off about 5 years ago to clean things up. Things need to change and this model has potential to enable artists. When you scale down expenses (cutting out middlemen) you dont need as much gross profit to make the same money.

With tools today you can produce amazing quality sound at affordable prices. Serious musicians will already have most the required gear anyways.

The v4v model in its current state is absolutely not sustainable for artists on its own. But it takes minimal effort for significant residual rewards (low time pref).

Its a chicken egg situation. Need more artists to get more fans. Need more fans to get more paying listeners. Need more paying listeners for more artists.

We've been watching this space for years and have been heavily involved and learning what works and what's missing. We need an easy to use one click solution to zap tracks but also contains the important back end metadata. Solve that and we will scale fast. Think wavlake now 10x it. That's the next stage we are aiming for.

We are here not because we want to leach off the backs of others' hard work and jumping in to monetize an already-lucraticve ecosystem. We see a potential for freedom AND profits... and have a grand vision for what the music landscape could look like. So we are here to actually dig and build. Not just make an app or two but foster and scale a thriving ecosystem for music lovers.

Great to know you ..

That is exactly I am saying : build afresh on #nostr .. don't become a podcasting bait .. cuz if you just add PC2.0 namespaces , Spotify and Apple will ignore them and still get your content .. and you will be forced to share your content with them for clicks and views .. effectively nothing changes .. you will end spending huge dev cycles for .. still give your content to big tech and get nothing in v4v ..

If you build a new paradigm of music distribution..totally based on nostr ..no link to old XML thingie .. then you have a chance ..however remote it may be ... Cuz as nostr grows , your content will get support

Point in case

ECash failed cuz it was dependent on banks ..

Bitcoin succeeded cuz it broke all the ties with past ..