I'm still amazed how easy it is to generate new VISA Debit card without exclusionary KYC and fund it with #Bitcoin Lightning using paywithmoon.com. 🌩️
Discussion
What's their limit? I might end up having to pay bills that way if banks go nuts and close transfers.
From https://paywithmoon.com/faqs
"Each virtual card can hold a maximum of $1000 at any time. Users may only spend $10,000 in any given 24 hour period across all of their virtual cards. Users may only spend $50,000 in any given calendar month across all of their virtual cards. Some merchants are restricted due to the types of business they conduct. Please see our list of restricted merchant categories elsewhere in this FAQ."
This is amazing. I just created an account, a $10 VISA card, and then opted to delete it and keep the funds in my account. Goodbye KYC.
Possible via tor?
Yes, the page opens over Tor, so it should just work.
Thank you dear person
Especially in combination with https://sms4sats.com that's essentially all you need :)
You realize that this hilarious and hypocrite.
Meanwhile you are advocating for non-KYC, you are also advocating to go back to using fiat and worse, supporting VISA.
Using fiat in any form or shape is against freedom.
Stop feeding them the reasons to exist.
Stop using fiat and VISA!
Yeah, that's fair point. Not easy to do, but I should do better...
Yeah, support VISA... the best way to fight the banksters
Yeah, I'm not sure if there's a better option to buy stuff online that's not available in online bitcoin markets?
Your take is to not buy anything online when it's not bitcoin on both receiver and sender sides?
I live only using BTC from 2018.
Yes, I am an OG from 2012 stacking sats all these years. But that is making me an extreme toxic maxi because I saw the light. The true light.
Living only on BTc is not easy, I agree.
But fighting against fiat is not by using VISA cards.
Pay with BTC anywhere you can, to support that poor BTC merchant.
Convince your local mom&pop shops to take your BTC. I convinced some around me. One of them is willing to make me 10% discount if I buy anything I want from his grocery. He's willing to bring me even products that is not selling usually in his grocery. I just order to him and pay in sats. P2P.
Is not that hard.
Fuck the big retail chains. Support local and small ones, that are in need.
do you pay with onchain btc or lightning?
groceries only LN
onchain is only for opening/closing LN channels and /or managing the funds
Use the 3 levels of stash method. Think like a bank
https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/bitcoin-be-your-own-bank-think-like
This ☝️
Makes sense and I appreciate you pushing it!
There are some things that I needed that were unfortunately not possible to get with bitcoin (recent example is specific medication that I needed), but I also didn't check DNM's on this, so maybe that's the way.
Only BTC consumption? Are you sure? This is too difficult at present