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to be fair, we've provided *significantly* more aid to Ukraine than Israel since the war broke out.

I played with this idea with ai so give it the appropriate pinch of salt. Flavor to liking.

No one who knows their history or economics would have voted for any of it, provided they weren't profiting from it.

what about in the last 50 years?

1975–1984

Israel: ~$50B

Ukraine: $0B (pre-independence)

1985–1994

Israel: ~$65B

Ukraine: ~$0.5B (post-1991 independence, limited aid)

1995–2004

Israel: ~$60B

Ukraine: ~$5B

2005–2014

Israel: ~$55B

Ukraine: ~$3B

2015–2024

Israel: ~$50B (includes $17.9B since Oct 2023)

Ukraine: ~$175B (bulk since 2022 due to Russia conflict)

Totals (1975–2024)

Israel: ~$280B

Ukraine: ~$183.5B

Do this again but add the nominal trade totals between the two countries.

There is no realistic way to separate legitimate trade and unnatural favouritism. So not going to equate that to no strings attached money airdrops for obvious reasons. Not sure what the post is either. Some weird moral equivocation

point*

Nothing to do with morality.

Geopolitics is a game of trade & power.

USA gains in all directions with respect to controlling Israel.

You seem to have an issue with looking at this holistically though... 🤔

Geopolitics doesn't care about my or your morals.

There is only what begets power & combatting power of your competition / foes.

I'm actually for defending Ukraine, but anti provoking Russia.

I don't really care that much if Ukraine has less land because they made a dumb move joining NATO & provoking Russia - that war should end if it's possible to end it.

Regardless of morals, I think it's quite clear that there is a battle for freedom in the East.

Authoritarians vs democratic nations.

lmao what are you even on about?...

I simply pointed out a fact; the rate of aid to Ukraine far outpaces the rate of aid to Israel. that's just a fact. Not sure why that's so triggering

Not trigged whatsoever.

You definitely got triggered by what I said 🤣

weird account of the thread lol. But if you say so. literally just stated a couple facts, didn't make any value judgements

Further trade with Israel is ~50x more & thats nominal value which doesn't take into account secrets shared and brain import.

Just look at the chip factories & tech hubs being built.

Hah! Good one. 👏👏👏👏💯😂