Miners and nodes get paid, it's not a charity you deceptively-phrasing fuck

Including lightning on your home server is promoting a shitcoin that makes people rely on the cloud

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It doesn’t make anyone rely on the cloud. Nodes are easy to run. And what’s the alternative?

The alternative was the whole point when you first replied, people should be using doggie coin if they want fast cheap public transactions or Monero+Tor if they want fast cheap transactions with more privacy

Lightning absolutely makes people rely on the cloud, it's batshit mega insane to pretend everyone can run a node currently

And I don't even see how you'd argue that running a lightning node isn't just using your server as part of the cloud shitcoin Will was talking about

Dogecoin? Are you serious? If I wanted cheap transactions in a currency that’s going to 0 against bitcoin, I’d use Venmo.

Monero is the one that trends to 0 against Bitcoin so far. Bitcoin trends to 0 against doggie coin throughout doggie coin's entire existence.

Maybe you're using childish zoomed-in charts or making some insane future prediction that defies all logic