I agree about JMac...I don't want him to be right, but I think Scripture does bear that out. This is an age of victory through witness in the face of persecution, not some political kind of geopolitical conquest.

Theologically I'm pretty decidedly amil; I think the theonomists / theocrats suffer from an overrealized eschatology (Wilson included). I think the growth (multiplication and purification) of the church in this age doesn't look the way most Chritians (especially American) wish it would.

We have a case *as humans* for natural law and liberty, grounds for resisiting tyranny, but I don't think the ground of that battle is particularly Christian.

Not sure if that answers your question, but there it is. 🤙🏼

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That's a good explanation, thanks.

I'm traditionally amil as well although my wife grew up in a pre-mil dispensationalism background.

I think the big danger we have with the postmil movement currently, particularly Christian Nationalism is that it is easily co-opted by nominal Christians who have aims of dominance, not evangelism.

Agree completely. Frankly, I see "Christian Nationalism" as a Jan 6th type trap.

Very thankful for the grounding in these questions I received from Vos, Kline, and especially VanDrunen.

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