I listened to some of the first interview with Shapiro and Zelensky. At first when I heard Zelensky speak in English I gave him the benefit of not speaking English well.
But he had a translator in this interview and he sounded completely retarded. Maybe Ukraine language doesn't translate well or something but he was absolutely inarticulate.
He tried to sell the idea that "battlefield data" was repayment for American tax dollars. What a fucking idiot.