Asleep: The State is looking out for me.

Half-Awake: The State is out to get me, I’m afraid.

Fully-Awake: The State fears me, I will bully it down to its appropriate size.

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What follows the downfall of the state?

Not the downfall, the shrinkage to its appropriate size and role.

Do you think the state can be trimmed when the average person doesn't have a clue what its true extent is?

The NSA, CIA, FBI, these are all the state, they are too complex to try to reign in by a clueless population. Do you have a different view?

im so glad i don't live in the use the cia has an onion of all things and even a website

Yes. We’re in the Information Age. People know.

You put a lot of faith in people. Most people don't even know basic history, geography or biology.

Part of the psyop is to assume everyone is an idiot. But it’s only highly educated people who can be so easily manipulated. Regular people know they’ve been scammed, and they don’t trust the ruling class. And even the nornies in the laptop class are catching on.

Freedom

I've got a gun and my bros outnumber you so I think I'll rape your wife and steal everything you own while you watch. Why wouldn't I?

We don’t want the entire society to fall into complete anarchy; ideally we construct systems that preserve the good and the true.

But I’m a realist and know that the state will never go away because evil is a real thing and state systems are a proven way to prevent unopposed chaos.