Is this complexity the domain of the user, or the app dev?

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Users will never know what relay is for what. If devs have a list, and it looks like we do, devs should recommend to users (read deny) when these types of relays are entered into the wrong spots. We need to start setting users up for success instead of failure due to complexity.

It's the freedom to fuck up.

*the guarantee to fuck up

Freedom is not free. But yes, clients need to do a better job

Even as a technical person, relays are currently more hassle than I'm willing to put into this for fun. If mine are wrong I don't even know of a decent up to date central resource to fix them.

Scattered half information like this that requires paging back and forth is never going to get a normy to get this right.

FUCK NORMIES

If we don't make the tools of freedom simple enough for anyone then not enough people will take it to matter.

It doesn't matter how free you can be if everyone around you is still trapped they can ruin your life easily.

RIGHT BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE CANT WAIT AROUND FOR THE DULLARDS. SATOSHI AGREES