Nostr Web Client

Yeah I don’t get it. Assuring you’ve got all the events is a hell of a lot of work for only theoretical benefit. ATprotocol does the same thing. But why. Are peers dropping content really a big issue? We don’t care about it in Nostr and it’s fine. Everything is so much simpler too. We could implement it a number of ways in Nostr. But there’s been little need.

OceanSlim 1y ago

Peak core devs in their own echo chamber. Yes people care about content being lost. People will not use an app if they're not 100% sure their content will be preserved into the future. It's like... A big aspect of content... Creation... Why TF do I spend time making content if I'm not sure it'll be accessible at any point in the future. Censorship resistance is pointless if I can ensure the content is kept for whatever arbitrary reason. Users: Run your own relay. Clients: Implement outbox.

It's the whole fucking point.

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Nina Chopra 1y ago

Isn't content persistence a relay issue rather than a protocol issue? Someone could run a relay that promises to preserve all your content. Doing so is a responsibility that not every relay wants to take, especially given that people are running relays for free.

OceanSlim 1y ago

That's why you run your own relay. But clients are useless I they're not using outbox and your relay is not in someone else's list. They won't see your posts. The issue is not with relays as I would advocate to run your own. The issue is with clients not fetching other notes based on a users relay. Say If I write to my relay and you follow me but my relay is not in your list, if the client isn't using outbox, you won't see my posts.

Nina Chopra 1y ago

Which clients have outbox? Is that a NIP that some clients don't implement?

OceanSlim 1y ago

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Derek Ross 1y ago

I have a list somewhere but off the top of my head, in the middle of the ocean, I'll say 0xChat, Amethyst, Snort, Gossip, Iris, Nostrudel, and anything that uses the NDK.

Nina Chopra 1y ago

Have a great trip.

hodlbod 1y ago

Also Coracle

rabble 1y ago

nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn you should document and promote your Welshman library for Nostr. It’s this secret gem.

hodlbod 1y ago

Oh, thanks, I'm glad you like it! I am actually working on documenting it as of a couple weeks ago. What in particular do you like about it?

OceanSlim 1y ago

Like this

sudocarlos 1y ago

I think the note you're quoting is referring to finding *all* available notes including those that you will never see or interact with because the account is way outside of your circle. Nostr made a good tradeoff here.