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Are you saying the US has not met the Budapest liabilities?

Not “during the first few months “, I mean to date.
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Viktor Vsk 2y ago

All Budapest memo signers broke it in Feb 2014 and it hasn’t changed till today. In fact it became useless even though:

1) Ukraine didn’t break it

2) Ukraine didn’t receive back anything what it exchanged for it

If you want to argue about philosophical differences between “a promise”, “a guarantee” etc in a document signed decades ago by different generations - then dictatorships already won

If you don’t believe a random guy ok the internet - see how entire countries react to that kind of “promises” — Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia give Ukraine ALL they can because they understand they are at the biggest risk. Poland on the other hand stocks up weapon as mad and increases army reserves because it can afford it. Why do they do it? Because they love Ukraine and war? Or because they understand Article 5 has very high chances to become next Budapest memo?

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pailakapo 2y ago

So by that measure look which country gave more than any other? The US. Yet it’s still not enough.

You claim we reneged on the deal, but gave more than any other country.

When is enough enough? I know the answer, it will never be enough.

The addiction to US aid has no end. I realize it’s because the US set it up this way, but you can still realize the addiction and the desire of current people like myself to draw a line *somewhere*.

Realize also that I am one, very unpowerful citizen. So you’ll get your money, tanks, whatever you desire for the duration of this endless war, since the military industrial complex runs our government.

I’m expressing my desired outcome, were I king of the world.

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Viktor Vsk 2y ago

Are you kidding? When there is agreement, there is a clear enough. If you want it to sound easy, then according to Budapest memo “enough” is when Ukrainian sovereignty is restored at 1991 borders. Is this clear enough?

Thats actually your country (therefore YOU even if you don’t like it) — obligated to guarantee in terms of international laws. We ask MUCH less. You are dancing to give NOTHING.

If you want to be unreliable partner, say it directly first