Damus creates quote posts with a q tag instead of e so it doesn’t get included in threads, not sure how amethyst does it.
nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s that’s on your side or amethyst side?
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Isn't it supposed to be a `mention` marker as per NIP-10?
nip10 is about how to handle replies in threads. Quote reposts are not replies, and shouldn’t be pulled down when opening a thread. This is why it shouldn’t have an e tag on it.
That's the old method where all `e`s were considered part of the thread. In the new one with markers, you can have multiple different interpretations for the `e` tags. The text clearly says that a `mention` marker declared a Quoted Post, not a reply.
Feels like we’re talking past each other. There shouldn’t be an e tag at all or else pulling a thread (#e: threadid) would pull down quoted posts of the threads root post needlessly. nip10 has nothing to do with this.
Plebstr also using mention market for quotes 😊
Well then we need a quoted note spec because that just seems wrong to me.
I would not assume `e` tags are necessarily part of the thread. It all depends on the marker in the new system. And people can create any marker they want.
kind1 Thread queries (#e) can’t distinguish between thread replies and non-threaded kind1 notes. So you are forced to pull them down when you don’t need them. This is not good, especially if there are lots of quote posts of the root note.
I could of course filter them out and probably should, but I would still rather not pull data that I don’t need, especially if it reduced the number of real replies in a limit query.
Let’s say there are 105 newer kind1 quote reposts of some thread, and 1 reply. A {#e: threadid, limit:100} would fail to fetch the replies on the thread.
This is only an issue because quote posts are kind 1. A quote repost spec with non-kind 1 and etags would work too.
I don't disagree that is not ideal.
My only point is that you should not assume `e` tags are necessarily part of the thread, especially when they have a marker on it (any non-root, non-reply marker).
Yeah, I think we're somewhat on the same page. I've already made some post around this topic, where I mentioned that we use multiple versions of quoting.
I believe having a tag with a mention marker is still useful, as I often see quotes used as comments, they are just quoting to get more attention. They're still contributing "comments," but in a different type of post.
However, separating this as a 'repost' is the better approach.
It might be a good idea to move this discussion to GitHub from now on.