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there are definite advantages to transacting on an L2

after setting up your own LN node and opening your channels try sending 10M sats and tell me how it goes.

STN likes to pretend EVERYONE on LN is using proxys and trampoline routing (they aren't)

and EVERYONE on Monero is using light wallets that leak network info (they aren't)

you can have good privacy using either network.

But Moneros privacy guarantees are better known and battle tested.
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Saberhagen The Nameless 6mo ago

I would even say the worst case scenarios for privacy are more prevelant in Lightning (Custodial and LSPs) because of it's increased complexity. Users don't know or care and just use Wallet of Satoshi. You can see this in custodial wallet download stats and the top LSPs like Acinq.

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Hanshan 6mo ago

yeah I think thats accurate.

Do you know what these wallets are that are sending via RPC? I've never heard of any of them.

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Saberhagen The Nameless 6mo ago

I'm pretty sure Cake and Monerujo do. I don't know every specific wallet that does, but I'm I think it's common for phone wallets. It's essentially the same metadata problems as using a public node for any other crypto/Lightning. They'll know your IP address if you aren't using a VPN/Tor, the times you sync, the last block you're syncing from, and what time you sent a transaction.

I've already known for awhile that Dandelion doesn't apply if you're using someone elses node (at least from the public node you're sending your tx to - it still applies to the rest of the network when the public node sends it out I think).