Give me a way to pay all my bills and I’ll get rid of banks completely

Bitrefill was on this train but got derailed

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Yeah. Bitrefill is handy for groceries but nothing else I really need

The Kroger giftcards always go out of stock for months on end

We use the Instacart gift cards. I know you pay a bit of a premium for the service, but we can use them at most any local grocer. Other than that I've found that Visa gift cards from the Bitcoin Company have worked for paying other things like utility bills.

Ah. Cheers. Will check those. Zapped hue.

+1 for the bitcoin company. Used to love PayWithMoon as well but they had to pause operations because of silvergate I believe

Bill pay was amazing there

The bitcoin company? I think you can buy Visa cards no kyc.

Yeah but I can’t pay my mortgage with them :(

Oo ya that sucks. Idk the work around for mortgage.

Yeah I liked bitrefill at first but there's too much shitcoinery in it

Can you use the fold card? I’ve never tried to pay my mortgage with BTC before

It was using fold card through PayPal, don’t know if it’s still an option, but the only way to find your fold card is fiat bank link (and CashApp doesn’t work) so I abandoned Fold until they let me deposit funds with LN