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the english word "real" is related to the word "royal" and this is obvious as "real" means "royal" in spanish

one of the key things that the divine right of kings cult has tried to do is poison human language to define reality as what the king says it is

hh 1y ago

This is a case of what's commonly known in linguistics as "folk etymology". You're making a connection that on the surface works, but has no... real... etymological basis.

Both the "real" and "royal" are Latin words that English took either from the Norman language or maybe later on from French. These derive from two unrelated Latin roots.

The first one is from "realis", which in turn derives from "res", literally: "a physical thing". And ultimately, from an Indoeuropean root meaning "goods, wealth".

The second one derives from "regalis", which in turn derives from "rex", "a king". This is the same Indoeuropean root found in English "right", German "Reich" or Hindi "Raj". Its general meaning is "to straighten, to rule" (both words derive from it, incidentally, so we're defining the word using the same word...)

In both cases, the "-alis" suffix forms adjectives meaning "related to". So, "thing-ly" and "king-ly", if you want...

The fact that in Castillian both roots have ended up converging is due to simple phonological developments and has no bearing on French, or English that would take up too much space but are perfectly documented and easy to explain.

So, I'm afraid the connection you're trying to make isn't... really... there.

A more substantial one would be the fact that the we identify "truth" with "material", and "rule" with "straight...

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ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

lol, you are contradicting yourself, first you point out there is a connection, and decry it as being "folk" or "not real" or, dare i say it "naive" yes, naive is based on the english word "knave" which means fool

but you are engaging in fallacy because you are claiming superior knowledge when the reality (oh, that word) is that people use words as they understand them, not as the high council of words decrees.

as for "ortho" and "straight" and "upright" being related, again these are just as folk related as anything else i just said... and the arabic word for "straight" is "serrata" (it's part of the salah, idinha serrata means "straight path" or "path straight" to respect the order)

there is no such thing as an "orthodox" intepretation of language, this is a fallacy as well

humans have imaginations and are stupid (knaves) and the most outstanding naievete is that of the so called expert, and what is more toxic is "expertism" is a thing that is touted often by "councils" (which is a perversion of counsel, which means to advise) as the right decision as justification for what is in fact the profit of the council members and the detriment of those who are stupid enough to obey this council (soviet, savet, junta, communa)

just because the link may be weak or not obvious doesn't mean it isn't part of the social matrix, it almost always is, and that's why the sounds and consonants, especially, tend to relate

hh 1y ago

There is no connection, you made it up. That was my whole point. Just like there is no connection between "knave", a Germanic word meaning "boy", and Norma/French "naïve", which is a Latin word ("nativus") meaning "natural" (and by extension, "simple", "innocent").

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 1y ago

again with the expertism

hh 1y ago

Pointing out the real, documented, connections between words instead of the ones you're inventing is not "expertism" either. Words have meanings, you don't just come up with new ones on the fly to make a cute note for internet clout.

The fact that language is social by definition is in fact contradictory with what you're trying to do here -- making up your own individual etymologies.