Nostr enables something that no social network has ever supported: the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

Want to see exactly what someone else's feed looks like? Just set up a read-only account with their pubkey.

If this functionality is sufficiently interesting, nostr clients could add a "view feed as..." feature that could be as simple as a button on a user's profile screen.

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few understand this....

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Followed and ⚡️

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I’ve used Dorsey’s npub to see feed but never thought about how powerful that was. Wow, what a revelation. 🤯

Interesting. Does this allow you to see their DM’s as well?

Super interesting point 🤔

You can see who they’ve DM’d but cannot decrypt to see messages or their contents.

No, because they are encrypted and require the private key to decrypt.

i can see who you are dm'ing - not what

Is it possible to make this more private? It can be disturbing to know that everyone can see who I'm talking to in private, right?! 🤔

Are private relays a solution for that ? #nostr #DM

yes, good to keep it in mind hehehe

no idea bout private relay tbh

A new specification will have to be written to address all privacy concerns regarding DMs.

One thing you can do right now is to always send from a throwaway account when DM-ing someone. Then it's only visible that the other party is having a conversation with someone unknown.

The other party could themselves respond from a throwaway account, to a _second_ throwaway account of yours. That way only the first DM is trivially linked to the other party.

DM sender, recipient, timestamp and message size is all public. You can see for yourself and browse e.g. here: https://brb.io/n/list?kind=4

People see "encrypted" and think it means "private". Something something we kill people based on metadata. People are going to get burned on this.

Tempted to make a bot that publicly mentions who DMs whom for visibility 🤔

obviously not, you need the priv key for that

No you need their private key for that.

You can still see who they were DMing tho

Had to try it! Not fast but it works. Wonder if the lighting network could use for onion routing... I get the stupidest ideas 😅

This of course doesn't help your metadata. If your IRL identity and IP is never known... meh.

let me check lol

Storytime; Recently I saw a post where someone made a screenshot of their messages, but blurred out the sender. I just copied the npub and checked who they messaged with. You can even see the time. Wasnt hard to find out who was blurred out lol.

No, you would need their private key to decrypt DMs.

I remember #[2] mentioning that he implemented this, but I cannot seem to find that feature?

found it.

Yes it’s a great feature

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View world as jack feature 😂

Wouldnt that be fun

Love it *except* for the visibility of who is dming who… seems like a bit of a privacy issue. Guess this is something that needs to be addressed with the nostr protocol.

Yes, it’d be great to have that addressed.

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I think that's a most interesting proposal and I'd use it.

Why exactly is that so interesting? I’m not arguing, I’ve just thought about it and not seen the appeal. What’s it for you?

Imagine when it’s not just bitcoiners in here. Such a great way to understand other people’s realities

Omg! I want this badly! 😂⚡

iris.to does this already 😎

wow, just saw this. great work #[4]

+1

any possibility for you to make the Messages tab only accessible with a privkey decrypt, so ppl also couldn't see who you are messaging?

This feature already exists in some clients.

save iris.to to Home Screen as "Lopp" and log in with npub

Interesting idea.. Wouldn't this depend a lot on common relays though? If the users intersection is low (maybe 1/10 are shared) the experience could still be quite different.

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Now we just need the creepy shoe company posting...

"You are in her DMs. We are in her shoes. We are not the same. Try our latest model `Sketch` by Sketchers"

Paid relays may affect your experience in the future.

Been doing this for years in Solid. It's an old trick. You decouple identification and verifcation (authentication). Bingo!

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Been waiting for this on Twitter... Could be very helpful in understanding the forces shaping opinions/narratives.

Toggling users would be like selecting a playlist or a news source specialized in whatever.

Allowing users to opt their feed into this feature could help with privacy concerns.

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Can you use that persons paid relays as well?

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Isn’t this the same as what Vicariously did on Twitter? I still have a list from another twitter user showing what should be his feed…?

I agree, this is an amazing “feature” (not sure feature is the right word, since this is just the way Nostr works by design).

A second amazing feature that differentiates Nostr from other social media’s is that you can log in to multiple clients (different websites, mobile apps, etc) all created by different people and still see all of your data, the same feed, the same content. This would be like logging into my Facebook account with my Twitter creds and seeing the same content both places. Not how it works there; but on Nostr that is, again, by design.

This is pretty cool.

Fantastic. How do we do this?

Would this need to be on a per relay basis? Wondering how that would work to read from paid relays that you are not currently paying to access.

relays are paid just to write 🤙

Gotcha - still learning the ins and outs

Wild.... I just did that without knowing it works this way...with Jimmy Song's pubkey . Qute enjoyable 😊. Thank you for explaining it.

This is really interesting

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A tabbed bookmark feature to save npubs to quickly view others feeds would be nice

Some will want a private follow lists for various reasons. This would be achievable with 'private' and 'public' accounts with a client feature to manage this.

The private account wouldnt be verified, and would never reply or like. The public account could be verified, never follows anyone, and is used for likes and replies. The client would present the feed as the private account, but all events except a follow, would be signed by the public account.