here this one:

https://community.getumbrel.com/t/closing-dead-node/7323

umbrel had farthcoin as support who is an uneducated low life, insulting everyone and blaming every customer calling them stupid and everything their own fault. farthcoin is still active with his insults on stackernews.

this year jim took over. he is a nice guy but he could not help to retrieve my sats. they even tell you that it can be lost even though you have all evidence, your sending wallet the tx id, only one transaction and you can see the bitcoin address where it is sitting but your seed from umbrel does not work. lightning is a mess and will never work for most people. i do not tolerate losing funds. it is a system which does not work.

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But this issue is not a lightning problem. This is an umbrel problem. So I don’t get your point.