I'm not Catholic, so I have a hard time grokking how a church presents itself, but more traditional is better in my book. Is St Francis not?

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It’s not. It’s a beautiful church nonetheless. I was originally from Florida and I’ve been there a few times. Catholics can be divided in three rough groupings.

(1) Traditional Catholics who hold on to the faith as it was from the Apostles to the 2nd Vatican Council in the 1960s.

(2) Modernists like Pope Francis who welcome rupture with the past and accept all kinds of innovations, believing that the Church needs to “keep up with the times” to remain relevant

(3) Conservatives who believe in many of the traditional teachings, but try to find a middle ground that Pope Benedict XVI called the hermeneutic of continuity, that believes the new should be in harmony with the past.

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Which one would you classify St Francis under?

It is not Traditional because they don’t offer the Traditional Latin Mass. There was a big rupture after the Second Vatican Council where the Mass was changed significantly from the way it had been offered for nearly 2000 years. It is hard for me to say if they are conservative or modernist, since I have not been there in a very long time.

I see, very interesting, so that's what people mean when they talk about "Vatican II"?