Subnostr

I will zap you if you engage meaningfully with this question that is very important to me.

What would the implications be for Nostr as a whole and the individual end-user's experience if the following was *trivially* easy to achieve (read "trivial" as "a single inexpensive btc transaction and now you "just have it forever"):

> An always-on, cloud-hosted personal Nostr relay that requires zero maintenance or setup and is cryptographically owned by you alone. you also serve yourself a client UI that is equally owned by you and unstoppable.

don't let the "cloud-hosted" part scare you. part of "you own it" means you can move it around - including to your own hardware - just as trivially as you were able to acquire it originally.

The Beave 1y ago

Hmmm....

As a start, maybe.

I'm a pretty big believer of "not your hardware, not your data." it would be a really hard sell to try to get my to change that now.

For someone else, you'd probably need to:

-explain why you'd want to host your own relay

-show a clear path as to how to move said relay

-offer to help them move the relay to their own hardware when they are ready, possibly even selling a hardware package optimized for this task.

However, you'd have to compete with things like umbrel that are doing just that and much more. (This is the path I'm going down via a proxmox server.)

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vinney...axkl 1y ago

I understand the "not your hardware not your data" concern. would you feel better if the data was encrypted at rest and replicated to as many mirrors as you want, including a machine in your own house? (the home machine would mostly be a catastrophic backup, while the cloud machines are for perfect uptime/easy access)

The Beave 1y ago

Using it as an off-site backup would be a pretty huge value add.

Those I see why you'd have it the other way around (using the cloud as your primary and your own hardware as a backup state ready to deploy in case the cloud drops out of the picture for whatever reason).