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Its weird what surprises you here. Its an equivalent of “I don’t want to have business with murderers”, “I don’t want criminals visit my home”. The most logical step in modern politics in fact that reflects EU electorate opinion

Ike 1y ago

Ukranians have been killing their own brothers and sisters and crying "traitors!" for 10 years now. There's plenty of killing going on on both sides. What isn't talked about at all is ending this clusterfuck, but the western plunderers have already moved in heavily on what's left of Ukraine's national treasures.

Nobody in their right mind would agree for this conflict to continue, so if it were up to an "electorate" in Europe, the Kiev regime would have been asked to resign before any financial assistance could be provided. Because it's the thieves who decide, the washing machine in Kiev keeps going, and escalations and higher prices due to unenforcable sanctions is what the "electorate" gets for sponsoring or passively accepting state-level terrorism and NATO imperialism.

If you think in terms of "us vs them", you've been had.

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Séimí Mac Síomón 1y ago

Noooo you either wave your little Ukraine flag , or you are an agent of Putin, don't you know how this works?!

zebra 1y ago

> "Ukranians have been killing their own brothers and sisters and crying "traitors!" for 10 years now"

Give example that can be verified

Ike 1y ago

Donbass, Lugansk. Did you not know the kiev gov was shelling their own citizens from day 1 of the maydan coup?

zebra 1y ago

So, maidan started 30 nov 2013. can you give me some proof of shelling Lugansk or Donbass at 30 nov 2013? photo or news article, something.

Ike 1y ago

"In March 2014, following Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, anti-revolution and pro-Russian protests began in Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, collectively 'the Donbas'. These began as Russia invaded and annexed Crimea. Armed Russian-backed separatists seized Ukrainian government buildings and declared the Donetsk and Luhansk republics as independent states, leading to conflict with Ukrainian government forces."

Notwithstanding the gaslighting to paint the western sponsored coup as some sort of liberation, the "revolution" culminated in February.

Are you saying the regime in Kiev never foughtwith itsown citizens in the Donbass?

zebra 1y ago

1. As I understand from you answer you can't give me the proof that "the kiev gov was shelling their own citizens from day 1 of the maydan coup?". If I'm wrong please give.

2. Russia annexed Crimea. Russia organized seizing gov buildings in Donbass.

And then Ukraine started shelling their own citizen in Donbass, where as you confirmed there were russian-backed forces. What Ukraine gov was trying to achieve in our opinion?

3. Can you give me some proof or sources that maidan was sponsored by the west? and that should be proof, not someones opinion.

Ike 1y ago

Whatever they wanted to achieve, they didn't stop shooting/shelling the donbas for 10 years. "Revolution of dignity" for me, democide for thee.

On the topic of who sponsored the coup, after a decade and close to hundred billion of "aid" from the west, I can only add this to the picture as it is painfully obvious already who owns the Kiev regime:

https://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2014/03/ukraine-gold-reserve-put-on-plane-for.html

The plunder goes to the conquerors.

zebra 1y ago

so, your article said:

"According to the iskra-news.info last night , Ukrainian ..."

Lets look what is iskra-news.info:

I can't even find About section.

Sorry, don't see the point in continuing this conversation.

Ike 1y ago

There's no conversation. I guess out of convenience to avoid cognitive diss, you have chosen to not see with your eyes and not think with your brain to the point where you have reduced yourself to another online mainstream media drone. Putin bad, EU and NATO good.

Ukraine got fucked hard, mate - by the US and western interests, and by Russia. "Whatever shall the bear do if we openly provoke it, I wonder?" The ukr gov fucked around and found out. The biggest losers as always are the poor ukranians who couldn't escape in time and are being terrorized by the Kiev regime now. All the wealthy ones are not fighting - people in the EU can see the expensive ukrainian SUVs and sports cars all across the high-end resorts and communities. The new imperialists are generous. Klitchko got also a nice new house recently for his role in the maydan coup.