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Yea but isn’t that the point too? You cannot create an “objective moral framework” because the world doesn’t work like that. Humans are human, and there is ALWAYS some form of bias or opinion or feelings that get in the way. Even those speaking of and for god are still….human.

You cannot create a moral vacuum for an imperfect world to live by. You are set up for failure from the start!

Cormac 4mo ago 💬 1

Are you a bitcoiner? Reminds me of the idea of inherent value in something. And the Kaynsian idea that everything has an objective agreed upon value that the market has to discover. But thats the thing, the entire framework is the wrong framework. Its more like the Austrian way where the value is different and personal for each individual unique person. Each persons daily life, background, family, morals, circumstances, and opinions and thoughts ALL help to create what value is for them.

I say that to say this. You are trying to create a kaynsian “this is good and bad for every person no matter the person, no matter the circumstance, no matter what” framework for the world. But when people experience life in completely different ways all around the world, even with different religions and gods as their way to view the world, it makes it impossible to create that “one for all” objective framework.

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DRE 4mo ago 💬 1

Yes, and your point would make more sense if I were claiming I or any other human could create or decide what is objectively good or bad. I’m saying that without God, morality is subjective, and if morality is subjective, then societies crumble because who is to say that someone’s opinion that killing and stealing being bad is objectively true?

One’s experience does not make 2+2 equal anything other than 4. All I’m saying is that without God morality is subjective.

Cormac 4mo ago

Yea i agree. Thats what i was thinking as well, and was trying to explain in the other response to you about the chef analogy, and i didn’t respond in time haha. But great that we are thinking along the same lines to talk about it haha