Nostr Web Client

Stolen from someone.

Zuck is probably getting high quality instruction and coaching and is probably insecure enough to study hard [looks in mirror, hmm]. Plus he doesnt do shit at his one company aside from running it into the ground. He has time.

He is likely a sociopath.

Elon (I love him) is a fat nerd. Ive seen his security team in the background in SpaceX videos (one gals is a real-life analog of YT from Snowcrash).

Elon has 8(?) Companies to run. And he listens to Joe Rogan. If he is training, he is training his bots to fight for him.

Advantage in a fair fight?

Zuck

Advantage in a real fight? Musk could nuke Zuck from orbit (metaphorically but not hyperbolic) or botswarm him.

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Gary ₿usey 2y ago

Nah, man! Elon is just as much a sociopath as Zuck. 💯

BitcoinJujitsu 2y ago

Disagree. Both may be aliens, but one attempts to save humanity. The other attempts to enslave

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

How so?

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

Here's some clarification.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/dec/16/apple-and-google-named-in-us-lawsuit-over-congolese-child-cobalt-mining-deaths

https://www.thecooldown.com/green-business/tesla-elon-musk-cobalt-child-labor-seo/

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/15/23760915/tesla-supplier-glencore-human-rights-abuse-allegations-battery-minerals-mining-energy

BitcoinJujitsu 2y ago

So, someone in the supply chain is unethical? Check where your clothes and soccarballs are made and by whom.

Id direct you to the outcome of the products. And unethical means to an end do not justify, just make the whole aoup less evil

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

With all due respect, I feel like your just proving my point even further. We can still make these products with ethical means. Bitcoin literally creates an opportunity to do so. We can start paying the people who make these products with sats. The economy is evolving in a mind-blowing way. A way we have never witnessed before throughout all of human history. Don't think that we need to keep using unethical means to make progress. Bitcoin and Nostr are proving the opposite.

BitcoinJujitsu 2y ago

Can we still shout at each other if we are in agreeance? Cobalt mining in Africa is a shitshow of ecological and economic tragedy. Same with the coal miners of Wales and WVa.

Same with the Triangle Shirt Factory in NYC in 1880.

Meta makes... what? Shit social media platforms. Elon makes electric cars, tubes, powerwalls, and reusable spacecraft (first in history).

What is the product?

Digital enslavement or the exploration and colonization of space?

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

Again, I feel like your just proving my point even further. Those EVs, powerwalls, and reusable spacecraft that you're talking about rely on fossil fuels to generate the energy needed to make them function. The pollution created from the factories that make these EVs sticks to our atmosphere. Same with all the pollution generated from those rockets. Keep in mind, that when you're driving a Tesla, it is collecting data on your location. It also has a camera that is constantly on. Even when it's not being actively used.

BitcoinJujitsu 2y ago

No. Shit.

We agree.

Teslas are what the greens wanted. Now... waaa, muh cobalt. Govt subsidies, waaa.

The steel, methane, kerosene and liquid O2 for his rockets have to come from somewhere. Doing shit consumes resources.

Muh point is that this consumption should go toward the betterment and advancement of humanity.

Zuck is making us hate each other with his fiat products (which also consume resources) which make Katy Perry popular. And that does not lead to humans exploring the Universe.

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

We're definitely not on the same page and this is getting boring. 🙄 agree to disagree.

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

Appreciate your input, though.

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

Also, we can barely care for our own planet. How is it a good idea (at least at the moment) to try and become an interplanetary species? 😑

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

And if they don't justify than why do you support it? 🤨

Gary ₿usey 2y ago

They're equally bad.

August 2y ago

It'd be fun to watch billionaires fight, but I bet the companies involved wouldn't let it happen. Legal departments, things like key man insurance, etc... Pity corporations are so stuffy. Such a fight could even be useful for them.