Companies like Unchained and Swan must KYC you because they provide financial services but Nunchuk and Casa don’t so as long as you can’t be identified from the email you use then they are probably your best options to look into. I think both allow you to pay in bitcoin too so there won’t be a credit card on file either.

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Casa & nunchuk don't hold the coordinator file for you?

I don’t understand how non KYC collaborative custody could work bc couldn’t anybody who managed to get ahold of one of your seed phrases get the company to sign as well?

I'm assuming there's multiple authorization steps including your email, which should be encrypted - like protonmail,

2FA authenticator like authy or Google authenticator.

Maybe there's a tradeoff without giving up your identity,

Although the benefit doesn't make sense to me - if they're holding your coordinator file and a key then yes your identity matters.

But, if they're holding only a key and no coordinator file, then even if they have your identity they can't tie it to your Bitcoins as the addresses you're using are unknown.

I’d love to see a key only service just as you describe. That would be really cool.

Otherwise, if you're not careful with your IP address they have your information regardless of your KYC.

But yeah that service exists tbh...

You just do it yourself with the same service these MFers use.

https://www.ironmountain.com/services/iron-cloud-data-management

I would also go for their physical backup service.

Nice tip!

They do, but it's easy to import them into Sparrow Wallet. They would have your public info and can see how many bitcoin you have under control of with that wallet. I assume they keep this as private as possible, but I can't verify it.

They do not need to know your

- location

- legal name

- social security addresses.

That information is not required, which is more secure from a $11 wrench attack. Anchor watch is interesting because you can KYC yourself, but still have $11 wrech attack protection for a fee. There are many other things to think about.

Elaborate schemes are often less secure. Even if you're an expert, your spouse may not be. That's why bitcoin cybersecurity is such a deep, never-ending rabbit hole.