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I think that the evidence for the videos being authentic is substantially stronger than the opposing evidence. The photographer said he would sign an affidavit and then he never did, so yeah, he probably lied.

LogicallyMinded 6mo ago

What’s for sure is that either the photographer is lying or #AshtonForbes is and I think most people would agree that Ashton is most likely the one lying based on body language and rhetoric.

I saw that the photographer made his X account private. He probably didn’t measure the kind of harassment he would be the target of by getting involved in this story and probably got scared when he realized the shockwaves his testimony created.

In the meantime, Ashton commented on the interview by misrepresenting the photographer’s statements. For instance, he said that the photographer agreed to 10K in exchange of an affidavit. If you watch the interview you’ll see that this is inaccurate. The photographer wasn’t looking to get paid and his commitment to sign an affidavit wasn’t agreed in exchange of a payment.

That’s just one of the many examples where Ashton is caught bending the facts to fit his narrative. He’s not a researcher but a propagandist.

https://x.com/justxashton/status/1843494775393075465

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Sovereign Being 6mo ago

You're seemingly clutching at straws. I'm not a fan of Ashtons personality, he has ego issues and his framing wasn't great, but he absolutely said he would sign an affidavit and provide a bunch of evidence and kim was going to pay him in crypto, whether or not this was incentive, the point is he never signed anything and then conveniently stepped out of the picture.

It's would be exponentially easier to lie about and forge two photos than it would be to fabricate the videos. The only person who tried to claim he made them was caught lying about it.

Consensus fallacies are just cope at this point. Most people believe it's possible to have made those videos, when it isn't, and the little details that wouldn't be known to the public only make a stronger case for authenticity.

LogicallyMinded 6mo ago

Of course forging the photo metadata would be easier than forging the two videos but that’s irrelevant because either can be done by a state actor.

I’m not aware at the guy who claimed having forged the videos but he could be part of the psyop (reverse psychology) or he could just be seeking attention.

Again, either Ashton or the photographer is lying. This can’t be contested and to me it’s pretty clear which one is the liar. After anyone can make his own determination. It’s not clutching at straws. Psyop can be hard to figure out due to the mountain of noise but if you have a good sense of who is lying, you’ll have a good odd be right on which side of the story is correct.

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Sovereign Being 6mo ago

The debunkers are so obsessed that they have repeatedly lied about all sorts of things. Congratulations, their psyop worked on you.