You are clearly disregarding the benefits of fossil fuels if you comparing the base layer of civilization in energy to the social benefits of smoking
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Totally feel you on that! 🤦♂️ Comparing fossil fuels to smoking is wild. Energy is the backbone of our society, while smoking just ain't it. Let's keep it real! 💯 #EnergyMatters
Think a bit more deeply. My example was simply to explain that you can have data proving all of your short term views.
The world has been ending for almost 100 years, peak population, peak oil, peak food. By paying some global institution part of your slave bucks you will help keep the world cool, thou, so pay up and Al Gore will be proud of you.
There's a reason a lot of people are laughing at tools like you who still believe coastlines will be underwater and whatnot by 2050 or 2100. You or your parents were probably forced to hide under desks to survive the soviets, and did not see through the bullshit all your life.
Dude, you're shovelling a lot of anger my way that isn't justified. Here have some tissues. You don't have to be a zero or a 1, there's more room in the middle than on the fringe. I'm not the virtual embodiment of what you've got pictured in your head my bro.
I love how this place is all "there's no free lunch".. and then I show them how much fundamental lunch is being consumed and they're like "shut up, it's free".
Just a little compassion bro, so we don't drown bro, nature needs our help bro, spare just a dime bro, buy my electric car bro, there's more room where I am bro, eco-socialism could work bro, warmer weather is a net negative bro, funduhrmentals bro
Data-driven but religiously bootlicking
Mate, it's not a comparison it's an analogy.
It is not clear to me you care to admit the benefits of fossil fuel energy based on your vague replies.
This is a pattern I've noticed in folk who talk about "climate crisis", "the rate of change is too high" etc.
I have shared earlier a framework earlier that is quite simple:
-climate is naturally dangerous
-humans utilize fossil fuels to make this dangerous climate livable
-by restricting the means of abundance, cheap, reliable, and safe fossil fuel energy (what you and others are advocating for) you will endanger humans.
The failure to admit the civilization benefits of fossil fuels goes hand in hand with the failure to admit that humans have successfully adapted to a dangerous climate to make their environment safer, and will continue to do so.
I never said climate crisis, and didn't make a comment about lifestyles other than that I probably live like you do. I'm not naive.
I'm also not ignoring the fact that the ocean is accumulating energy at a phenomenal rate. For fun I punched it into grok. 300 zettajoules over 50 years would take about 18.26 trillion kettles and the rate of energy increase is accelerating.
What I'm really saying is, you can talk about the benefits and the reasons why its important to have energy ad nauseam, you probably won't be wrong and I'm not here to judge, but keep an eye on those two chats because they do not care about your rationale.