What's funny is don't all these use The lightning network but claim the lightning network doesn't work. I'm confused. This is why I stopped paying a lot of mind to this stuff.

And ignore it.

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Ark said that LN doesn't work, but the video clearly show that they used a submarine swap to move sats from LN into Ark. And that swap depend on a LN channel.

A paradox ! You can't use Ark without LN.

Then come the question: if I already have a bunch of LN channels why do I need Ark ? Totally useless.

Another L2 option trying solve a problem that they haven’t identified yet? Everyone wants a slice of the pie.

you can use ark without LN but have to stay inside the ark or exit onchain. LN is the glue that joins the ASPs.

a lot of the LN naysayers have ulterior motives.

"LN sucks, use my L2"