How did Facebook crush Myspace?

Why did vine only last a year while tiktok exploded?

Why didn't Google circles work?

I don't know the answers but some insights here might be a key to grow nostr

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5eyes.

Google+ failed because Vic Gundotra left and Google made some decisions that changed the core functionality of Google+ and then without Vic at the helm, it was essentially walking dead.

speculation could be free

- ease of filling forms

- laziness

- because facebook did it first

Agreed, would be useful, however all the above are companies and require commercial incentives. NOSTR is a protocol, so perhaps comparisons to HTTP or SMTP would also be helpful.

HTTP made gopher, veronica, WAIS and Archie all redundant.

if people feel like theyre missing out, theyll use the thing. otherwise your left with a bunch a weirdos like here 😅

no normies feel like theyre missing out by not being here.

I remember Orkut was a thing before Facebook I never used MySpace.

Facebook precessor was lifelog a government program that's why it gone viral since than I think all social media are run by 5 eyes.

https://video.nostr.build/53b80dfee7efbfc88403224655701085a68bed50c45439321b0610adc9d7b044.mp4

Algos

I definitely agree that tiktok is winning because of algos

Did early Facebook have them tho?

In my mind the early killer feature was just tagging friends

algos are false winning. they win only *under* the rules of the algo.

i hated tagging, it's like, leave me out of this lol

Not home feed algos, but friend discovery. It was so easy to find old friends, acquaintances, distant relatives.

Some thoughts:

Facebook started with high-end universities, tuned the initial experience to benefit care-free college students, and created its network effect through elite circles first.

Vine vs. TikTok? No idea.

Google Circles was trying to directly substitute for a product (Facebook) that had an insurmountable network effect. It was too hard to get everyone to start over on an entirely new platform for essentially the same experience. One social network was enough for most everyone.

Pagers and laserdisc

If it was like betamax vs vhs i'd know the solution

If I remember right Vine died(got shutdown by twitter, so maybe nostr:nprofile1qqsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9uhxtnyd9nkwmm09e3k7mgprpmhxue69uhkvet9v3ehgu3wdehhxarjxyhxxmmdqywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytndd9jxgmrfdenjumtev3h8xtn2wqergaw8 could provide clarity ) after the popular people left because they didn't monitize and youtube and insta did.

Tiktok succeeds because it is like a skinner box for creators. Or maybe a gatcha game would be more appropriate since it's Chinese. Creators just keep pumping out content and praying to the algo that they strike it big.

Myspace died when Fox bought and enshitified it.

tik tok exploded simply because it fills the young generation's world of dumbness, boredom, loneliness, meaninglessness and high time preference, it's recommendation algo so accurate that it feels like a drug. take it as the rebellion is the newest lost generation

Owen Benjamin argued pretty convincingly that “the right people” didn’t own those first two: MySpace and Vine. Meaning people who run shit: establishment/deep state/power elite/regime/oligarchs etc