Replying to Avatar Guy Swann

Logged into Facebook today...

Me: [goes to Facebook]

Me: [enters email & password]

Facebook: "Confirm you are human"

Me: [identifies stoplights]

Facebook: "We sent a code to your gmail account"

Me: [goes to gmail]

Me: [enters email & password]

Gmail: "Confirm you are human"

Me: [identifies bridges]

Gmail: "We sent a code to your recovery email"

Me: [opens new gmail tab]

Me: [enters recovery email and password]

Gmail: "Confirm you are human"

Me: [identifies more stoplights]

Gmail: "Would you like to setup a recovery email?"

Me: "No"

Gmail: "Would you like to give us more personal information and your phone number?"

Me: "No"

Gmail: "Can we put cookies that track your entire web experience in your browser for your 'security' and 'convenience'?"

Me: "No"

Gmail: "Welcome to your email!"

Me: [finds security code for other gmail]

Me: [enters security code for other email login]

Gmail: "Would you like to give us more personal information and your phone number?"

Me: "No"

Gmail: "Can we put cookies that track your entire web experience in your browser for your 'security' and 'convenience'?"

Me: "No"

Gmail: "Welcome to your email!"

Me: [finds security code for facebook]

Me: [enters security code for facebook]

Facebook: "Would you like to give us more personal information and your phone number?"

Me: "No"

Facebook: "If you let us install this thing you'll conveniently be logged in every time you return to our website!"

Me: "No"

Facebook: "Welcome to Facebook! Also there's a much better experience if you let us install this thing and you'll conveniently be logged in every time you return to our website! Have you changed your mind from 6 seconds ago?"

Me: "No."

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This is not an exaggeration. The internet is broken.

My new favorite is that my Gmail verification demands number I lost a year ago, but can still log in from trusted devices. But cannot change the number. It sends me only to FAQ, no other option given.

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I added TOTP 2FA and removed phone numbers and devices from Google knowledge. Makes me a lot happier when I have to use a Google identity. My TOTP stuff doesn't need a separate app as my Password Manager hardles TOTP just fine (bitwarden, protonpass, keepassxc).