With Phoenix, you weren’t actually opening a channel with an outside node.

Your channel(s) were between Phoenix’s central node and a “virtual node” for you.

Then they could open outbound channels to a bunch of other nodes. This simple aspect removes a lot of friction for the user.

But as nostr:npub1t0nyg64g5vwprva52wlcmt7fkdr07v5dr7s35raq9g0xgc0k4xcsedjgqv alluded to, there is a lot of visibility and lack of privacy on Phoenix’s end. They can see everything going on.

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Yeah for sure. As I understood it they were actually doing the routing on their side were they not? I wasn’t really worried about privacy with their wallet or I wouldn’t have been using it, I just wanted a self custodial option that was easy to use.