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Thanks for reviving this logo dedate nostr:npub1r0rs5q2gk0e3dk3nlc7gnu378ec6cnlenqp8a3cjhyzu6f8k5sgs4sq9ac nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 nostr:npub149p5act9a5qm9p47elp8w8h3wpwn2d7s2xecw2ygnrxqp4wgsklq9g722q nostr:npub18nagz6a53yh6d05e8trj487dhvyfhh4qchvsz87jqng4g4zl5tvs825evl and everyone…

I share feelings that the protocal itself doesn’t need branding, any more than the web itself does – but I’ve still been hoping we might at least manage an agreed share icon, that can start to embed and establish a nostr link identity

That was always going to be a conversation that could only develop through concrete proposals, so I’m dropping this one into the mix. To offer a case for something favouring the power of confident understatement – simple enough to feel self-evident, that might perhaps manage to be distinctive yet open enough to be simply iconic in the practical sense…

Offered In the hope that it might at least provoke some counter proposal, that doesn’t impose a particular colour case, or insist on trying to make some rendering of an ostrich even readable at favicon scale !!

All thoughts welcome, as always….

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I was trying to make that open undefined space the icon, more of an invitation and open possibility than a naming… Again, may just be me, but filling it and making it so explicit sort of kills it for me…

Your idea is interesting!

But I don't think parentheses alone are enough to make it clear that this is a symbol that refers to something.

Image it on a footer of a website, it could be easy to confuse it for spurious/missing characters.

So it doen't seem very memorable.

When I see the brackets I think of one of n B2B silicon valley AI and/or surveillance startups.

Maybe nostr has an icon and brand to cater to developers, and by extension a disparate brand or icon for consumers or end users.

The dev facing brand or logo should highlight nostr’s:

1) permissionless nature

2) FOSS

3) network effects squared

4) bonus points relays architecture

I don’t see bracket as a consumer brand or logo. For consumer facing I enjoy nostr:npub18nagz6a53yh6d05e8trj487dhvyfhh4qchvsz87jqng4g4zl5tvs825evl gonzo ostrich.

cc nostr:npub1r0rs5q2gk0e3dk3nlc7gnu378ec6cnlenqp8a3cjhyzu6f8k5sgs4sq9ac nostr:npub1uapy44zhu5f0markfftt7m2z3gr2zwssq6h3lw8qlce0d5pjvhrs3q9pmv nostr:npub1a7n2h5y3gt90y00mwrknhx74fyzzjqw25ehkscje58x9tfyhqd5snyvfnu

I’m not proposing a nostr brand. I‘m proposing, and think we really need, a protocol-wide profile/content share icon - that doesn’t assert/undermine particular client identities.

I am very much just a user here. And enjoyment of the ‘nostrich’ is absolutely as valid a judgement call in this as any other. Although it’s worth remembering how much its ‘sense’ relies on being a pictographic reminder of a shared joke amongst some, that others didn’t and won’t get…

You seem to be asking for a lot to be communicated by such a little button. Beyond an attempt to be distinctive, attractive and recognisable, I’d argue that it can’t embody anything more than its own form and function. Personal readings that evolve through its use are going to be about association, and about the reader more than the read. But they can hopefully be kept open enough to leave space for each user to form their own associative connections between the sign and the content and possibilities they use it to link with.

If I’m honest, the more I live with this one the stronger and more useful it feels. But my offer is very much just that. And part of the motivation for this particular proposal was simply to try to shift and open up the frame of the conversation a little.

I absolutely appreciate that you’re looking for something this isn’t doing for you. But in response to these particular misgivings: I’m not sure share icons are ever used out of context, or even alone, in that way….

But to offer another perspective for a moment: if it were to become established, it might be precisely that open familiarity and adaptability that could be strikingly distinct and useful… perhaps even as a [ ] text emoji link if necessary…