Saying “just use Lightning” in a high fee environment is the Bitcoin equivalent of “let them eat cake”.

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What? I've used it 3 times today, no problem whatsoever with near 0 fees.

You are delusional.

You used it or you used something someone holds and runs for you?

No, I used it. I own my own LN channels in several wallets and my node.

These fees are ridiculous. Has me looking at ecash. I wasn't around for the block size war but maybe Roger was onto something.

Lightning is a bar tab... Liquid is a bankers model... Why?